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    I've seen a few What?ub entries which imply that Whitbread are making Premier Inn restaurants residents only "without planning approval".

    This seems strange, do they really need planning consent to do that?

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    This might be because some premises including public houses were redesignated as use class Sui Generis under planning a few years back. Any premises in this use class will normally require planning for any change of use class so possibly the bar or restaurant would be reclassified under hotel or private use. Purely my take on this as I’m not a planner but did used to work closely with them.
    Ok, maybe just for one......................

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    The key point is whether they are trying to turn public houses into residents-only hotel bars without planning permission.

    The Whitbread argument seems to be that any pub use was incidental to their use as part of a hotel, i.e. that they were always hotel bar / restaurants so there has been no change of use.

    Very controversial, where these Beefeater / Brewers Fayre / etc. pub restaurants had separate branding / advertising from the adjacent Premier Inn, had their own entrances and were open throughout the day and not just for breakfast / evening meals.

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    I've closed circa 115 of them in the last couple of weeks.

    Though calling them pubs ................
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBCamra View Post

    Though calling them pubs ................
    Thin end of the wedge?
    'Beer is for all day, not just for breakfast'.

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    Part of a general move to axe many of their bar/restaurants and concentrate on hotel rooms. According to the Chief Exec's Review in the AR (below), they are closing 112 which will be replaced by internal facilities, selling off 126 as going concerns, and retaining 196 "branded restaurants". To what extent any from these categories continue as "pubs" (ie open to the public for just drinks) presumably depends on local circumstances.

    Over the next 24 months we plan to add
    3,500 new rooms to our pipeline through
    a new extensions programme. This includes
    transforming 112 branded restaurants
    into new hotel rooms having first transferred
    the delivery of F&B for our hotel guests
    at these sites to a more tailored, integrated
    restaurant, that will be built inside the
    neighbouring hotel, mirroring the
    popular format already available at 387
    of our hotels. In 2023/24, these branded
    restaurants generated revenue of £121m
    and a PBT loss1
    of £19m.
    2) Over the next 24 months we are
    planning to exit 126 branded restaurants;
    they will continue to operate as they do
    now so that they can be sold as going
    concerns. Of these restaurants, we have
    agreed to sell 21 for £28m. In 2023/24,
    these 126 restaurants in aggregate
    generated revenue of £147m and a PBT
    loss1
    of £9m. The proceeds from these
    disposals will be used to help fund our
    investment in building a more tailored,
    integrated restaurant at our affected
    hotels as well as the construction of new
    hotel rooms across the estate.
    The majority of our sites, including our
    existing 387 integrated restaurants and our
    remaining portfolio of 196 higher returning
    branded restaurants, will continue to operate
    as normal and are not affected in any way
    On leaving the bar, I felt a strong blow to the back of my head. Turning round, I discovered it was the pavement

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