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June 2026. Sheffield. I don&#8217;t like these days in Sheffield, there&#8217;s too much still to see, but with Mrs RM busy curating her blog I need to give her options for local exploration. It&#8217;s a while since we explored the Park Hill flats out the back of the station, as these steps don&#8217;t get any&#8230; <a href="https://retiredmartin.com/2026/06/12/a-pearl-in-the-park-hill-flats/" target="_blank">Continue reading A PEARL IN THE PARK HILL*FLATS</a><br />
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June 2026. Somewhere near Tonbridge, Kent. In truth, I&#8217;d been looking forward to the usual &#8220;Meal for Three&#8221; from Southborough&#8217;s Meows for Michael&#8217;s birthday, Mrs Meow is my second favourite lady in the whole world and it&#8217;s not even close. But arriving at the door of the in-laws at half-eleven we&#8217;re greeted with &#8220;Michael needs&#8230; <a href="https://retiredmartin.com/2026/06/12/a-destination-kentish-pub-for-michaels-88th/" target="_blank">Continue reading A DESTINATION KENTISH PUB FOR MICHAEL&#8217;S*88th</a><br />
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<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQT2yuvm9IfOkegO20aWSOSD2iuntJDa2ZXaxnulgY8SqI8KHEKISxJEuZScJ2mZg_-GP7YA1cudihH0rdApoU5JAsZT9sp-hLVEVt4d_aPgbI9BeNyix7DqDN7n3DljRtm2OuEfgl4vVPsF0QFYgjrtm1GTGnq90c0AW2gzbHp-GZtnzLeipyEOf55jc/s3643/Shoreham%20map.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQT2yuvm9IfOkegO20aWSOSD2iuntJDa2ZXaxnulgY8SqI8KHEKISxJEuZScJ2mZg_-GP7YA1cudihH0rdApoU5JAsZT9sp-hLVEVt4d_aPgbI9BeNyix7DqDN7n3DljRtm2OuEfgl4vVPsF0QFYgjrtm1GTGnq90c0AW2gzbHp-GZtnzLeipyEOf55jc/w231-h400/Shoreham%20map.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>I'm going to <b>Shoreham</b> for the day this <b>Saturday</b>, I told <b>Mrs PBT's,</b> little thinking that my good lady wife was thinking that I meant the seaside town of <b>Shoreham,</b> in <b>West Sussex.</b> I quickly put her right, and explained that I was off to the much smaller and much less well-known <b>Kentish</b> settlement of <b>Shoreham,</b> a delightful village in the idyllic setting of the <b>Darent Valley</b>, which runs in a northerly direction, through the chalk hills of the <b>North Downs,</b> from just north of Sevenoaks to the <b>Dartford Creek Barrier</b>, the point at which the Darent flows into the <b>River Thames</b>. The reason for my visit was a short ramble,  along the <b>Darent Valley</b>, towards <b>Shoreham </b>in the company of members of <b>West Kent CAMRA</b>, naturally taking in a few local pubs along the way. The journey, by rail, from <b>Tonbridge</b> involves a change of train at <b>Sevenoaks</b> , and then a short ride up the valley towards <b>Shoreham.</b> There was a dozen or so of us who left the train, except it was the larger settlement of <b>Otford, </b>where we alighted, rather than the next stop of <b>Shoreham.</b><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFmZBW86KbBZORpHt-HCPBU6nUMGlk0xJRpI3BFW5Vyw9HJfdy16b-F47rysuXV8lwOnsZdprfJYEtAtgoSR3XyTojGH-_hjg5pfjN-d8Eox75ZpKRjvtkt-7a_APml-6_5POuh_hfcXLsUxF4U2kLzTq-hMIQ98AU4f9qCDqjbvc1grD7ShEcuKxeZSo/s4080/Otford%20pond.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFmZBW86KbBZORpHt-HCPBU6nUMGlk0xJRpI3BFW5Vyw9HJfdy16b-F47rysuXV8lwOnsZdprfJYEtAtgoSR3XyTojGH-_hjg5pfjN-d8Eox75ZpKRjvtkt-7a_APml-6_5POuh_hfcXLsUxF4U2kLzTq-hMIQ98AU4f9qCDqjbvc1grD7ShEcuKxeZSo/w400-h220/Otford%20pond.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>The idea was to walk from <b>Otford,</b> along a short stretch of the<b> Darent Valley Way,</b> to <b>Shoreham, </b>where we would be meeting up with those members who had decided not to walk. Leaving the train at <b>Otford,</b> meant the chance of calling in at one of two local pubs in the village, and the pub chosen was the <b>Bull,</b> a former coaching inn in the heart of <b>Otford,</b> and the largest pub in the village. Ten years or so ago, the <b>Bull</b> belonged to <b>Scottish &amp; Newcastle, </b>remember them? but the pub is now part of the <b>Whiting &amp; Hamond</b> group, a small, independent chain, based in <b>West Kent,</b> with an estate that also includes, the <b>Little Brown Jug,</b> at <b>Chiddingstone Causeway. </b><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRNJ7W1Ooqfd6HKBcn4rdc3zyL6a3fILaNXINd3zkwmX6IxLnhkoCwJghSMAGVQy37RfT4Q4bLwXN9jwkDTzf2fNCNMIBq70lZja84bZHyCLAjvBw5NhOnZzYutb4N3T11kgbBMTDtIborJTDIz8jIOlnTqGCrlNgbhf3jrgSYyGtKMx4caqgu60vVPaA/s3924/Otford%20Bull%20ext.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRNJ7W1Ooqfd6HKBcn4rdc3zyL6a3fILaNXINd3zkwmX6IxLnhkoCwJghSMAGVQy37RfT4Q4bLwXN9jwkDTzf2fNCNMIBq70lZja84bZHyCLAjvBw5NhOnZzYutb4N3T11kgbBMTDtIborJTDIz8jIOlnTqGCrlNgbhf3jrgSYyGtKMx4caqgu60vVPaA/w400-h201/Otford%20Bull%20ext.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>The latter is the small village where my current employer is based, and the <b>Jug,</b> as it's known locally, is just a short 5 minutes walk away from my workplace. Pubs within the group are quite heavily accented towards the food trade, although they normally manage to sustain a healthy wet trade. Quite sensibly, the pubs restrict their cask range to just two or three beers, and these tend to include local favourites, such as <b>Larkin's,</b> or beers from further afield, such as <b>Gun Brewery</b>. Both establishments fit the image of a welcoming country pub blending classic charm, modern food, plus friendly service all enjoyed in a cosy interior, offering a relaxed atmosphere that is perfect for any occasion.<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRYIUsGelax8txMlkMNFTuzzXwbDWmtoCYLMuk4fT4S5NwNf3r5dILczjeDXfeDSnVHhuaOJwq5EpGjXW32oPK8QelwVn329R3sWFNqfPgNJEnCkZiuoZymMQCm2jM_1V2o5OHG3XpYVnpdTmaoVLG_L1XeHxf4b1m94fXZgQP4dvoWbx72PQTybV75CU/s4025/Otford%20Bull%20int.%20bar.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRYIUsGelax8txMlkMNFTuzzXwbDWmtoCYLMuk4fT4S5NwNf3r5dILczjeDXfeDSnVHhuaOJwq5EpGjXW32oPK8QelwVn329R3sWFNqfPgNJEnCkZiuoZymMQCm2jM_1V2o5OHG3XpYVnpdTmaoVLG_L1XeHxf4b1m94fXZgQP4dvoWbx72PQTybV75CU/w400-h225/Otford%20Bull%20int.%20bar.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>It was time to move on, so after crossing the road opposite the <b>Bull</b>, we skirted the village cricket pitch, before heading into woodland which provided a much welcome chance to escape from the rather oppressive heat. As mentioned earlier, the path followed roughly the route of the <b>Darent Valley Way,</b> although for the pedantic amongst us, the official path is slightly lower down in the valley. <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiaIlAu_oV4M8BIEtoMWPxas5CpPWq_6F8pn_lAeLttgBCUZum4WOWGqXTwN98R9OCBA67Z2gc3LKjKs_5bnrh_kWXBClBUsQqySJsYIspcEnbdb0g9AGsojjD9cgJ3Hh49FSgMcgMQMAzSS6qMPRPEvKZvvMgmfEhRlGPIsBqH_dDdmwXjNWwm4xIhTQ0/s3975/Otford%20Bull.%20int.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiaIlAu_oV4M8BIEtoMWPxas5CpPWq_6F8pn_lAeLttgBCUZum4WOWGqXTwN98R9OCBA67Z2gc3LKjKs_5bnrh_kWXBClBUsQqySJsYIspcEnbdb0g9AGsojjD9cgJ3Hh49FSgMcgMQMAzSS6qMPRPEvKZvvMgmfEhRlGPIsBqH_dDdmwXjNWwm4xIhTQ0/w400-h231/Otford%20Bull.%20int.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>To cut a long story short, we entered <b>Shoreham</b> close to the vineyards, that overlook the easterly slopes of the <b>Downs,</b> before skirting the edge of the village itself. The plan was to enter <b>Shoreham</b> from the north, stop off at the <b>Crown,</b> which is the furthermost pub in the village, and then work our way back towards the station, stopping off at the <b>King's Arms</b>, before finishing at the <b>Samuel Palmer.</b> From there it would be a short, but steep walk back up the lane, towards <b>Shoreham </b>station, and the train home.<div style="text-align: center;"><b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhk3alX73Skb5i-4T7Ix2qeVIL3ozr_WY3Nd8GrfwYFZB0aektV043Wba8HdKSGBw4icPDsftxJ-4_fPnLVMyJs3J6G_kHg1HLeSLQ8Qu7rEs1UOUfQQZk2WadcR07v79lMROFasQlrt3U5iTLoF8G8a80nOXwVZn4jIo-QjaCQH3IojhJEtpYVLxxXSMQ/s4000/IMG_20230421_135532.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhk3alX73Skb5i-4T7Ix2qeVIL3ozr_WY3Nd8GrfwYFZB0aektV043Wba8HdKSGBw4icPDsftxJ-4_fPnLVMyJs3J6G_kHg1HLeSLQ8Qu7rEs1UOUfQQZk2WadcR07v79lMROFasQlrt3U5iTLoF8G8a80nOXwVZn4jIo-QjaCQH3IojhJEtpYVLxxXSMQ/w400-h225/IMG_20230421_135532.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></b></div><b>Shoreham</b> is unbelievably picturesque, so I was appalled to learn from  local <b>CAMRA Branch Chairman, Tony,</b> whom I was walking with, that this picturesque gem, surrounded by some equally beautiful countryside, nearly disappeared beneath the concrete and tarmac of the <b>London Orbital Motorway.</b> The original planned route of the <b>M25</b> was designed to cut directly through the <b>Darent Valley</b> and straight through <b>Shoreham</b> village, with the planners intending for the motorway to pass right through the landscape made famous by the <b>19th-century</b> artist <b>Samuel Palmer. </b><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1KhGZ7019avFD_NRFHlVfrfH96Lb9jMUnuHJ4uemcrZHfYw0dxL6St1v3CTKtuLIDF7qAQYfA4PcFBGZSLUD4i3YPD6wXhGUqIDhynkwXwCqjxGwoe9L5uKl-ofhaJ2DORk7NMJkMytoPW4wGb2VS6uKrKlP66plyb-NkMr4Qagpjm8mJndWRIkmLToM/s4000/IMG_20230421_135954.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1KhGZ7019avFD_NRFHlVfrfH96Lb9jMUnuHJ4uemcrZHfYw0dxL6St1v3CTKtuLIDF7qAQYfA4PcFBGZSLUD4i3YPD6wXhGUqIDhynkwXwCqjxGwoe9L5uKl-ofhaJ2DORk7NMJkMytoPW4wGb2VS6uKrKlP66plyb-NkMr4Qagpjm8mJndWRIkmLToM/w400-h225/IMG_20230421_135954.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>The route change was forced by a massive public outcry, because the proposed motorway would have carved  right through the heart of <b>Palmer’s <i>&quot;Earthly Paradise&quot;</i> </b>and spoiled for ever, <b>Shoreham</b> village and its picturesque river valley. Such a horror story, would be unimaginable today, but in <b>Thatcher's Britain,</b> environmental and aesthetic concerns were quite low down on the list of priorities. <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivYgYlcy3w1dyFBT94Un7EutkbVsxo_Kxp3goAi4Vnl8_izk6GAnWHrxqEiX7pA4zW_O6zY7wD4mEgWHpyIP1qQleITQKkyVu1WMRlz5IBsCdleRN1InV5X3_i7r1EZ5CuJnz09wY0nZg1AxZEjd8yQhZGZnAz1922AwVIYIaT2Tf7shy3O_t5sFQmR5M/s3727/Crown%20Shm%20ext%20long%20view.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivYgYlcy3w1dyFBT94Un7EutkbVsxo_Kxp3goAi4Vnl8_izk6GAnWHrxqEiX7pA4zW_O6zY7wD4mEgWHpyIP1qQleITQKkyVu1WMRlz5IBsCdleRN1InV5X3_i7r1EZ5CuJnz09wY0nZg1AxZEjd8yQhZGZnAz1922AwVIYIaT2Tf7shy3O_t5sFQmR5M/w400-h214/Crown%20Shm%20ext%20long%20view.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>Fortunately, the strong protest mounted by environmental and local campaigners succeeded in forcing a change of heart, which led to the authorities diverting the motorway north of the village, and pushing the road roughly a mile to the west of <b>Shoreham.</b> I do vaguely remember the <b><i>&quot;lucky escape&quot; </i></b>that <b>Shoreham</b> and the <b>Darent Valley</b> had, from the hands of the planners, but the story serves as a reminder of the need for constant vigilance against the worst excesses of those who would concrete over some of the country's most beautiful locations, in order to make a quick buck.<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj9mrSRKTLCxNgbGkSvQBD_j4FKuMgomKzp0pX5qJBZq3zgRpwkcexZY3DZHV80qmCnPCUXNTypS8gHPnaT3wQw8EyWPCxGMntAA-9mYiEVchFhNccsce8Ob9vArFl_9n70FFPgYOvjxH1aiOqqG-B5fQqeufdhAzxBP_sBfozzed2tpFTJ0SLdvN4OMnE/s3965/Crown%20Shm%20burger.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj9mrSRKTLCxNgbGkSvQBD_j4FKuMgomKzp0pX5qJBZq3zgRpwkcexZY3DZHV80qmCnPCUXNTypS8gHPnaT3wQw8EyWPCxGMntAA-9mYiEVchFhNccsce8Ob9vArFl_9n70FFPgYOvjxH1aiOqqG-B5fQqeufdhAzxBP_sBfozzed2tpFTJ0SLdvN4OMnE/w400-h231/Crown%20Shm%20burger.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>We arrived, quite suddenly at the northern end of <b>Shoreham,</b> after crossing the <b>Darent</b> by a narrow, wooden footbridge. A short distance in front of us was the second pub of the day, and the first of the village's three remaining pubs. The <b><u><a href="https://www.thecrownofshoreham.com/" target="_blank">Crown of Shoreham,</a></u></b> as the pub calls itself, is a cornerstone of village life, offering a friendly retreat where locals and visitors connect over great food and drinks in a cosy, inclusive setting. This multi-room pub, spread across two different levels, was busy with walkers - like ourselves, but was also holding a barbecue out in the rear garden. <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_4WCNjsnQtOhgl126WDIEN726jwiyi5qizEUfl1fcMw_m1v3TxF89QFMAaemqz2j1gD0Wzg663NkQY1aGQj77oCwLyPwdQqs6BRzUZ4MzgT6Z4EWEOBEvcMNmx46Vb7M82KGuFLzBDESBl9WmW6nMhBvIbtGw1ogxhdQtfbvddsRQ9yz0kRfgaoIhJ4g/s3891/Crown%20Shm.%20ext.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_4WCNjsnQtOhgl126WDIEN726jwiyi5qizEUfl1fcMw_m1v3TxF89QFMAaemqz2j1gD0Wzg663NkQY1aGQj77oCwLyPwdQqs6BRzUZ4MzgT6Z4EWEOBEvcMNmx46Vb7M82KGuFLzBDESBl9WmW6nMhBvIbtGw1ogxhdQtfbvddsRQ9yz0kRfgaoIhJ4g/w400-h208/Crown%20Shm.%20ext.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>Thinking, correctly as it happened, that something from the barbecue would be quicker than a full-blown meal from the main kitchen, I ordered a pulled-pork burger, which arrived promptly and filled the appropriate  gap in my hunger. There were two cask beers - <b>Dark Star Hophead</b>, plus<b> Young's Ordinary.</b> I opted for the former, as am not a fan of the resurrected <b>Young's beers,</b> which taste nothing like the classic, <b>Wandsworth</b> brews I remember with fondness from three decades or so, ago.  <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhhsV_5GFu_3IGb2lg3rpC9EvDy5pQSJLRwa76HECpDZOBGus7vnTsb5UlNh0-T_kXvDvUsr_SaAeMn8wcOjY5dOmPh7AncM16Pv_eBl4m-44oih6CrRH0poSFWqd-JQ2d9HdXUMR9YN96aE3PyFjISZeH4dPuaqGeuKIzMnp09KTlGVKdiJ-hhugr5QI/s4028/Two%20Brewers%20Shm.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhhsV_5GFu_3IGb2lg3rpC9EvDy5pQSJLRwa76HECpDZOBGus7vnTsb5UlNh0-T_kXvDvUsr_SaAeMn8wcOjY5dOmPh7AncM16Pv_eBl4m-44oih6CrRH0poSFWqd-JQ2d9HdXUMR9YN96aE3PyFjISZeH4dPuaqGeuKIzMnp09KTlGVKdiJ-hhugr5QI/w400-h228/Two%20Brewers%20Shm.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>After people had finished their lunch and/or their beer, we headed off, passing on the way the sadly closed <b>Two Brewers </b>in the <b>High Street.</b> This establishment transitioned from a traditional pub, to a food-led restaurant in <b>2019,</b> before closing its doors permanently in <b>August 2020. </b>You can still see its old name boldly incised on the front wall. The demise of the <b>Two Brewers</b>, reduced the number of pubs in the village down to three, from a highwater point of five, within living memory. The previous closure was that of the <b>Royal Oak</b>, which also in the <b>High Stree</b>t. The <b>Oak</b> shut up shop in the late <b>1990's,</b> although I'm not sure that I ever visited that particular hostelry.  <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdjJwrZF7oYPcNhyphenhyphenmdLhqECbIX-Wuo2X0KInO26wWnSCjO4qsVehQ7gxS6LT6FzGgeGhBwC_ATLLT0tvJLDszaApasqI3e8mv3_dalI9MzkYC3rSYLh6HWqm4sFpO2RqbnTm190a2abVAUFd1k77BdD8d9oRQDrpxsbBvgbm0SpPklr1AyYtKZ44jqDkE/s3338/Kings%20Arms%20Shorm.%20ext.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdjJwrZF7oYPcNhyphenhyphenmdLhqECbIX-Wuo2X0KInO26wWnSCjO4qsVehQ7gxS6LT6FzGgeGhBwC_ATLLT0tvJLDszaApasqI3e8mv3_dalI9MzkYC3rSYLh6HWqm4sFpO2RqbnTm190a2abVAUFd1k77BdD8d9oRQDrpxsbBvgbm0SpPklr1AyYtKZ44jqDkE/w400-h254/Kings%20Arms%20Shorm.%20ext.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>We were making for the third pub on our itinerary, the <b><u><a href="https://www.kingsarmsshoreham.co.uk/" target="_blank">Kings Arms,</a></u></b> an attractive, weather boarded pub, close to one of the bridges over the <b>Daren</b>t. This is the <b>Shoreham</b> pub that I remember best, but unfortunately, some football match or other, was taking place that afternoon, and with the pub showing it live on TV, the place was packed, both inside and out. I was bringing up the rear, so was more than a little surprised at finding the lead walkers in our party leaving the pub, just as us stragglers, arrived. <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiuKMhsSf-4RGaiUd7Q94i9nVOsbg2XxD9_8L43ZnIsKxPnM2LI8lLlzqhX1CEPWhno7dZ94Sjgsws4Lv0Ke7Q8rXyC1i9TyJRxYX68BQnbVlyksNi8NG2pvGpiH4ek5RIHQ_ce1ozUjBcILPFCJhAvVBEQv2YbycSrVAhcQ7D4klRBT9wDzTrZRU-dxb0" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiuKMhsSf-4RGaiUd7Q94i9nVOsbg2XxD9_8L43ZnIsKxPnM2LI8lLlzqhX1CEPWhno7dZ94Sjgsws4Lv0Ke7Q8rXyC1i9TyJRxYX68BQnbVlyksNi8NG2pvGpiH4ek5RIHQ_ce1ozUjBcILPFCJhAvVBEQv2YbycSrVAhcQ7D4klRBT9wDzTrZRU-dxb0=w400-h225" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>They reported that it had been difficult to get served, despite a preponderance of bar staff, most of whom appeared to be <b><i>&quot;just hanging around&quot;. </i></b>This was a shame as I would have liked to, at least, have had a quick pint there, but there's always another time. Instead, I followed the rest of the group along the relatively short distance to the final pub on the itinerary.<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyf386MfPJw79PwMC_Kbrv5c2JI-r-LEOdL6oJs4Hh3t3fA5_YLu7-k3ikj68m34svJa9OBSy53UkJkA4yN8CW0W7W1azlMszZTtquWVa_rvAZyfl-QZiGu5pl7BoRFbg2AJR-mYYkqSPuEL39crb97bCTTJErIMsyHvkW7qns-CMDVDvh7KnlQYDbAP8/s3748/Sam%20Palmer%20ext.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyf386MfPJw79PwMC_Kbrv5c2JI-r-LEOdL6oJs4Hh3t3fA5_YLu7-k3ikj68m34svJa9OBSy53UkJkA4yN8CW0W7W1azlMszZTtquWVa_rvAZyfl-QZiGu5pl7BoRFbg2AJR-mYYkqSPuEL39crb97bCTTJErIMsyHvkW7qns-CMDVDvh7KnlQYDbAP8/w400-h224/Sam%20Palmer%20ext.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>This was the <b><u><a href="https://thesamuelpalmer.com/" target="_blank">Samuel Palmer,</a></u></b> at the southern edge of the village, and just a short stroll down from <b>Shoreham </b>station. After closing in<b> 2020, &quot;Ye Olde George Inn&quot; </b>reopened as the <b><i>&quot;Samuel Palmer&quot;,</i></b> in <b>April 2022. </b>The pub is named after <b>Samuel Palmer</b>,a <b>19th Century</b> landscape painter who lived in <b>Shoreham</b> - and the pub is decorated with prints of his work. It is now owned by the nearby, <b>Mount Vineyard,</b> and a substantial amount of money has been spent renewing this historic old inn, but without ruining its essential character. A new courtyard/terrace area has been opened up, at the rear of the building, although as we discovered the majority of the pub's patrons seem to prefer sitting out at the front of the pub. <div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEitiA5_yr8Rk9LfFP-JU-dCtsfH08ExKqe1-awOyCl04zv1bPA-mo0YwWM-7CmSrRGNNFZ5BUV_IE85Oy4cz_Kj7C4DANVOe5uCsJyh52m4YOrpPOk9TiPQCWF4kp74kjTrrjGAowIaKYu1-9TTr7mI0UGHqO0ZMSLt52uRSq4O8oMI1tea5YVs19Yx2as/s3978/Sam%20Palmer%20bar.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEitiA5_yr8Rk9LfFP-JU-dCtsfH08ExKqe1-awOyCl04zv1bPA-mo0YwWM-7CmSrRGNNFZ5BUV_IE85Oy4cz_Kj7C4DANVOe5uCsJyh52m4YOrpPOk9TiPQCWF4kp74kjTrrjGAowIaKYu1-9TTr7mI0UGHqO0ZMSLt52uRSq4O8oMI1tea5YVs19Yx2as/w400-h225/Sam%20Palmer%20bar.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>I visited the <b>Samuel Palmer</b>, a couple of years ago, and <u><a href="https://baileysbeerblog.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-valley-of-vision.html#google_vignette" target="_blank">wrote about it here</a></u>, and then, as now I'm pleased to report that the <b>Samuel Palmer</b> remains very much a pub to drop into to for a beer or two, selected from a range of mainly locally-brewed, cask ales. I opted for the <b>Larkin's Traditiona</b>l and can confirm that it was on top form. The pub was certainly buzzing that <b>Saturday,</b> with lots of customers sitting outside, enjoying the early summer sunshine. This allowed our group to grab a couple of tables inside. The service was quick and professional, so I don't know what went wrong at the <b>Kings Arms, </b>but the pub's loss was the <b>Samuel Palmer's </b>gain.<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj2a6aKr80voEhsgAS9JHhTqy1gJhP2jsM0uGur94mOiqg3nh_yp4zRHOOU8ZFNHFvC5lNH7WFfT9oKjbjg4oSsqSE8rJAKjQuVW7X4ztY5eCNKbyGo8p9Vu92-eoqpIXb9UD0sbOhgWU6fYoi30YZ5Os1EmmaUCXGYPtUCdi8TADrrCs0L1v8CdVbd-uo" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj2a6aKr80voEhsgAS9JHhTqy1gJhP2jsM0uGur94mOiqg3nh_yp4zRHOOU8ZFNHFvC5lNH7WFfT9oKjbjg4oSsqSE8rJAKjQuVW7X4ztY5eCNKbyGo8p9Vu92-eoqpIXb9UD0sbOhgWU6fYoi30YZ5Os1EmmaUCXGYPtUCdi8TADrrCs0L1v8CdVbd-uo=w400-h216" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>It was a <b>20 minute</b>, uphill walk, to <b>Shoreham</b> station, but I allowed plenty of time because with an hourly service (unusual for a Saturday - and possibly due to engineering works, elsewhere) I didn't want to miss the train. For those wishing to duplicate all, or just part of this day out in <b>Shoreham</b>, or at other locations within the <b>Darent Valley, Thameslink</b> operate a half-hourly service from<b> London Victoria</b>, with additional trains during peak hours, from <b>London Blackfriars. </b>For those travelling from <b>Tunbridge Wells, Tonbridge,</b> or the <b>Kent Coast</b>,  it will be necessary to change at <b>Sevenoaks.</b> Whatever your means of getting there, do go and explore <b><u><a href="https://alisteningheart.blog/2024/02/08/samuel-palmers-valley-of-vision/" target="_blank">Palmer's <i>&quot;Valley of Vision&quot;</i></a></u></b>, and as you enjoy a pint or two, in one of <b>Shoreham's </b>surviving three pubs, give thanks that this peaceful and beautiful corner of <b>Kent</b>, escaped being buried under a tide of concrete and tarmac.<br />
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<b>There was more excitement the day after the <a href="https://www.breweryhistory.com/" target="_blank">BHS</a> AGM</b>. I was going to <a href="https://bathams.co.uk/" target="_blank">Bathams</a>! I'd been to a couple of their pubs yesterday bringing my total to 3/12. They're all within a nine mile radius of the brewery so ticking them all now seems a real possibility in a weekend. <br />
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They have a four roller mill, which rather surprisingly is on the ground floor. The bagged malt comes from Crisp and is milled into 50kg bags which are hoisted to the top of the brewery. <br />
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The cast iron mash tun takes 600kg of malt (four quarters!). <br />
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The beer recipes date from the 1960s and were made by current Head Brewer Alice Batham's granddad.<br />
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They use mains water. Liquor treatment is Bathams salt mix, which is really optimised for mild, though 95% of production is bitter.<br />
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They use six blocks of sugar per brew, No. 1 and No. 2 invert. The same wort is used for mild and bitter, but they have different sugars.<br />
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The copper 30bbl copper is heated by a steam coil and direct fire. <br />
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Alice was kind enough to briefly turn on the gas heater under the copper for us.<br />
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Both types of hop are used, Fuggles AND Goldings. <br />
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr-caption-container_tr"><TD class="cms_table_tr-caption cms_table_tr-caption-container_td" align="center"><i>Whole hops of course</i></TD>
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The hop back was designed by Alice's dad. It needs to be deep enough that the hops can act as a good filter bed. There was a problem this year as some Goldings were rather poor with low alpha acid, and some were better but the had a high alpha acid, which could cause problems with filtering out the trub.<br />
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr-caption-container_tr"><TD class="cms_table_tr-caption cms_table_tr-caption-container_td" align="center"><i>Hop back at the back, paraflow on the right</i></TD>
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The paraflow dates from the 80s. <br />
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Having spent a year working with CIP sets that are bigger than the brewing vessels at Bathams I was delighted to see the home made CIP set for the hop back. <br />
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The open wooden fermenters are plastic lined. The smallest one is used for mild. Parachutes are used to crop the yeast. Yeast is filtered through cheesecloth. Top heat is 72°F (22°C) and they chill to 55°F (13°C). Fermentation is rapid: a brew from Tuesday can be on chill by Thursday afternoon. <br />
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The dual strain yeast originally came from Hansons brewery. They still us 36 gallon barrels for most of the Bitter, and have some 54 gallon hogsheads too! 18 gallon kilderkins are used for the free trade and the mild goes in to 9 gallon firkins. <br />
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Beer goes in to the racking tank with auxiliary finings and priming sugar the day before racking. <br />
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The don't seal the cask on filling, adding isinglass and sealing with a wooden shive before delivery. And looking at that picture they dry hop in the cask too. The casks may be conditioned for a week in the pub, but will drop bright within six hours. <div style="text-align: center;"><br />
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And the inside of the casks is cleaned with steam:<br />
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It a fantastic visit, it was amazing to go round two Victorian tower breweries in two days! The midlands are rally growing on me. £3.05 for a pint of mild in the first pub I visited too!<br />
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The situation was very dynamic, so it’s worth saying exactly when this snapshot was taken. All these beers were brewed in August 1940, except for XXXX, which is from December.<br />
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Things hadn’t yet become so bad that drastic action was required. Just a few tweaks were necessary. That wouldn’t be the case for the whole of the war. For now, there was little change to the beers being brewed. Other than the price.<br />
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For example, the cost price of a 36-gallon barrel of X Ale had risen from 49 shillings and 11d in August 1939 to 111 shillings and 9d twelve months later.  That more than doubling in price was mostly due to increases in tax.<br />
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The most obvious change is a slight reduction in gravities. Most beers lost 1º, the exceptions being A, PAB and XXXX, which were unchanged, and XXX, which fell by 2º.<br />
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It’s a similar story with hopping rates. Those for the two Black Beers and the Mild Ales are unchanged. While that of the Pale Ales has been reduced by 1 lb per quarter (336 lbs) of malt.<br />
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The rates of attenuation look somewhat higher in this set. I wouldn’t read that much into it, as final gravities varied quite a bit from brew to brew. And even across the different fermenters in a single batch. <br />
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl105"><b>Beer</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl101"><b>Style</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl101"><b>OG</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl101"><b>FG</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl101"><b>ABV</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl103" width="60"><b>App.  Atten-uation</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl106" width="53"><b>lbs  hops/ qtr</b></TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl106" width="54"><b>hops  lb/brl</b></TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl109">A</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl109">Mild</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl112" align="right">1029</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl110" align="right">1005.5</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">3.10</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">80.90%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">6.14</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">0.71</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl109">X</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl109">Mild</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl112" align="right">1034</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl112" align="right">1005</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">3.84</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">85.34%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">5.60</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">0.81</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl102">PAB</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl102">Pale Ale</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl111" align="right">1039</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl110" align="right">1008.3</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">4.06</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">78.69%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">7.00</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">1.07</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl102">PA</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl102">Pale Ale</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl111" align="right">1047</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl110" align="right">1012.7</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">4.53</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">72.89%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">7.00</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">1.29</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl102">P</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl102">Porter</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl111" align="right">1034</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl110" align="right">1008.3</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">3.40</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">75.56%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">7.00</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">0.99</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl102">S</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl102">Stout</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl111" align="right">1052</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl110" align="right">1016.6</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">4.68</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">68.04%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">7.00</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">1.52</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl102">XXX</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl102">Strong Ale</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl111" align="right">1055</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl110" align="right">1017.2</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">5.00</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">68.77%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">5.60</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">1.31</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl109">XXXX</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl109">Strong Ale</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl112" align="right">1081</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl112" align="right">1036</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">5.95</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl108" align="right">55.54%</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl107" align="right">6.09</TD>
<TD class="cms_table_xl104" align="right">2.00</TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl116" colspan="8"><b>Source:</b></TD>
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<tr valign="top" class="cms_table_tr"><TD class="cms_table_xl119" colspan="8">Young's brewing record held at Battersea Library, document  number YO/RE/1/9.</TD>
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First up is <b>Go On Fool</b>, described as a &quot;Zested WC-IPA&quot; which doesn't make a lot of sense, beyond invoking Grapefruit Sculpin, a popular fruit-flavoured Californian IPA from the long-ago craft beer era. That was 7% ABV while this is a mere 5.5%, though it does list grapefruit zest on the ingredients, along with Saphir and Motueka hops. It's a foggy orange-yellow colour with a decently thick head and plenty of piquant citrus juice in the aroma. The texture is creamy, in a modern New-England way, lacking the sharp edge of Sculpin's California character. So I don't know what they're doing, calling it &quot;WC&quot; IPA: this is very much in the east coast vernacular. For all that, it's not bad, showing some dank resins alongside the sunnier citrus, and keeping everything fresh, clean and unfussily drinkable. The grapefruit element doesn't dominate the flavour, and there's a definite herbal quality from the Motueka perceptible alongside it. As the starter of a three-beer session it works well, and I wouldn't be sad to be offered a second pint of it after the first.<br />
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The slight decline in hop impact of Whiplash's recent beers is somewhat in evidence here, except for the black IPA's total Sabro bug-out. The other two are grand if unspectacular. Oddity shows no sign of brewing for themselves or moving to a different contractor. I'm happy to have them as a slightly exotic contributor to the brewing scene in my home city.<br />
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The more I think about it, that's exactly what I should do. Not just video my breakfast.<br />
Thanks for that. It's really cleared that up in my head. And given me a plan for next week in Grodzisk. <br />
 Not been to Poland for 30 years. I'm guessing it might have changed a little bit. <br />
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Someone suggested that I post about the food that I ate in Thailand and Vietnam. Being a lazy git, I've done it in the form of a short video.<br />
I had lots of excellent food in both countries. Mostly local stuff. But who can resist a bacon baguette for breakfast? Or to top up when the meal wasn't quite filling enough.<br />
What I forgot, was to video the banh mi that I had in Vietnam.Excellent stuff. If slightly weird, as they all contained pate. Making it a true fusion dish of French and Vietnamese cuisine. <br />
In Bangkok, once I realised I had to ask for the food &quot;just a little spicy&quot; if I wanted to get it spiced, but not crazily spiced. Every meal I had came with a fried egg. You can never go wrong with a fried egg on top of stuff.<br />
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			<title>Shut up about Barclay Perkins - Beer in Vietnam</title>
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My mate <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MstR5Fv2kg" target="_blank">Charles Guerrier</a> told me that Vietnam was the best place for beer in Southeast Asia. And Saigon in particular. So I was very optimistic of the beer I would find there.<br />
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Which wasn't something I felt in Bangkok. Admittedly, I wasn't really hanging out in beer places. And the choice was limited to the local Lager or stuff imported from Europe. I went for the former. As what's the point in travelling thousands of miles and drinkinmg beer you can get at home?<br />
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As I was stopping slap bang in the centre of Saigon, there were beery options close to my hotel. I wasn't going to miss out on those.<br />
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The first place I tried was <a href="https://eastwestbrewing.vn/taproom/ho-chi-minh" target="_blank">East West Brewing</a>. A brewpub. Sort of. As, due to council restrictions, it no longer brews on site. Despite the shiny equipment at the back. Which is a shame.<br />
<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbWEcXxkxqUCA7-Vvh00YYMlwpffrgJ3E_gMQAEly8nm48MdCQvDy837WitcEsCq3YvlM5Ict_UGiUQQbcOutSCs1jkm7nTHcGLyUEyfzOfpPzhUx0cu25i4wopxTWCkN6IWftdUmzIjgy3nJVt_5bteZwKlD8b20q2jSvjTK68SN6J78N1T8P0HeZYCo/s4000/East_West_inside_2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbWEcXxkxqUCA7-Vvh00YYMlwpffrgJ3E_gMQAEly8nm48MdCQvDy837WitcEsCq3YvlM5Ict_UGiUQQbcOutSCs1jkm7nTHcGLyUEyfzOfpPzhUx0cu25i4wopxTWCkN6IWftdUmzIjgy3nJVt_5bteZwKlD8b20q2jSvjTK68SN6J78N1T8P0HeZYCo/w640-h410/East_West_inside_2.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>East West's beers, wherever they might be brewed, are still pretty good. All very much in mainstream modern styles: Pale Ale, IPA, Hefeweize, Witbier, Lager, Pilsner, Vanilla Porter, Imperial Stout, Belgian Dark and Belgian Blonde. (At least, that's what they had on draught when I was there. I'm sure that it varies somewhat.) A good spread of styles, strengths and colours. Not just twenty types of fucking IPA.<br />
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Any guesses what I went for? Imperial Stout, obviously.<br />
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I met with Nhi Mai, brewer at East West. A smart young woman, who explained some of the vagaries of brewing Saigon. Such as the council forbidding brewing in the city centre on account of the waste water.<br />
<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-OxOgCQPP7HsFQQDO_03riiYLZFBxxHVDHQN6-RFsI25rFU3u6nf_aehwg0Ye0-lfBy_JoKhADysCgqbVG5s84Mk_2Y-kWKX3M_eitYPUfmmMEdX_OVYPigigeDLx6mWd-x0VOjub10QBzry8Jc0sfbcYeAXxB2VeDIBhOb8lO1QBhIerqgIOIT6DD4w/s4000/Pasteur_Street_inside.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-OxOgCQPP7HsFQQDO_03riiYLZFBxxHVDHQN6-RFsI25rFU3u6nf_aehwg0Ye0-lfBy_JoKhADysCgqbVG5s84Mk_2Y-kWKX3M_eitYPUfmmMEdX_OVYPigigeDLx6mWd-x0VOjub10QBzry8Jc0sfbcYeAXxB2VeDIBhOb8lO1QBhIerqgIOIT6DD4w/w640-h466/Pasteur_Street_inside.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>We shared a few beers in both East West and another nearby former brewpub, <a href="https://pasteurstreet.com/" target="_blank">Pasteur Street</a>, conveniently just 150 metres further along the same street. They also brew quite a few typical styles: Lager, Blonde Ale, Irish Stout, Pale Ale, Jasmine Amber, Session IPA, Pomelo IPA, Jasmine IPA, Double Jasmine IPA, and Imperial Chocolate Stout. Rather more IPA-heavy than East West.<br />
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What did I choose? No, it wasn't the Imperial Stout. I was being sensible and just had a Double Jasmine IPA, at a mere 8.5%. (I did, however, try the Imperial Stout when I returned the next day.)<br />
<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcCFPCyux13rvho8zdd4c3KiSvplPPVl4HCi487O17j_rpSk_kOKsvxL7kD9WK91ItmEQO3LIW8I735w2WUN_PgGdmizfClJ4btYnqMTZVLClqCJ8sapoR_aySuIEk3JXJ85ZVZ7BY9Mqo-bwvA8yWbZamk4xW1Y0SVOP5BpNQDS7zb53XsR74_ncIAz4/s4000/Pasteur_Street_IPA.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcCFPCyux13rvho8zdd4c3KiSvplPPVl4HCi487O17j_rpSk_kOKsvxL7kD9WK91ItmEQO3LIW8I735w2WUN_PgGdmizfClJ4btYnqMTZVLClqCJ8sapoR_aySuIEk3JXJ85ZVZ7BY9Mqo-bwvA8yWbZamk4xW1Y0SVOP5BpNQDS7zb53XsR74_ncIAz4/w640-h472/Pasteur_Street_IPA.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>The beers from both breweries were all technically good and pretty decent examples of the styles. Better than some of the beers I've had in Holland or the USA, for example. <br />
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I was pretty impressed. And I only scratched the surface. Ho Chi Minh has many more breweries and beer bars. I can heartily recommend it.<br />
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181 Lý Tự Trọng, <br />
Bến Thành, <br />
Hồ Chí Minh.<br />
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112 Lý Tự Trọng, <br />
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