Pubco. mergers.

[Bucking Fastard]

From 'London Drinker' (August/September 2017):

"M&B have sold 73 pubs - 65 freeholds and eight leaseholds - to a property investment group called Aprirose for £40 million. According to a report in the Times, these will form a new chain called Milton Pubs and Taverns along with 35 sites they already own. This makes Aprirose, who I admit I had never heard of, the 11th largest pub group in the country."

However, the "11th largest pub group in the country" claim must be way out.

It seems to me the second division of pub ownership groups have less than 500 pubs,probably due to 2016 legislation for groups larger than this.Thanks for contributions from Dave M and Aqualung.


Trust Inns -- 500
Fullers -- 380
Shepherd Neame -- 350
Robinsons --280
Thwaites -- 275
Brains -- 270
Youngs -- 270
Wadworth --240
Charles Wells -- 200
Sam Smiths -- 200


Again apologies if I have missed some obvious names.

[Aqualung]

Again apologies if I have missed some obvious names.

Shepherd Neame and Thwaites are in this category. Hal & Woodhouse) have only 190, I would have guessed over 200.
Even in early CAMRA days Sheps were larger than the other Southern independents but now they are roughly the same as Fullers. Fullers however now have some big pubs.

[Bucking Fastard]

Shepherd Neame and Thwaites are in this category. Hal & Woodhouse) have only 190, I would have guessed over 200.
Even in early CAMRA days Sheps were larger than the other Southern independents but now they are roughly the same as Fullers. Fullers however now have some big pubs.

Thanks for the correction,I've made an edit on the second division.

[Dave M]

It seems to me the second division of pub ownership groups have between 200 and 360 pubs ,namely Fullers,Robinsons,Brains,Hawthorn,Youngs and Charles Wells.There is quite a gap between this group and Admiral at the bottom of the big league. Again apologies if I have missed some obvious names.

Of course it is worth noting that the relatively new pub code has stricter rules for pubcos with over 500 tenants.

So for example Trust Inns appear to have an estate of between 4-500 and I sense that they are happy to stay around that level.

[Bucking Fastard]

Of course it is worth noting that the relatively new pub code has stricter rules for pubcos with over 500 tenants.

So for example Trust Inns appear to have an estate of between 4-500 and I sense that they are happy to stay around that level.

Thats interesting Dave and does explain a 500 pub threshold .I have editted my original post to reflect this.

[Pubsignman]

Again apologies if I have missed some obvious names.

The only one I could think of was Wadworth - their website claims they have 240 pubs.

[Bucking Fastard]

The only one I could think of was Wadworth - their website claims they have 240 pubs.

Good point,thanks .

[rpadam]

It seems to me the second division of pub ownership groups have less than 500 pubs,probably due to 2016 legislation for groups larger than this.Thanks for contributions from Dave M and Aqualung.


Trust Inns -- 500
Fullers -- 360
Shepherd Neame -- 350
Robinsons --280
Thwaites -- 275
Brains -- 270
Wadworth --240
Hawthorn -- 225
Youngs -- 220
Charles Wells -- 200


There is quite a gap between this group and Admiral at the bottom of the big league. Again apologies if I have missed some obvious names.

A few more minor players from the Independent Family Brewers of Britain website:
Arkell's - 103
Bateman's - "nearly 70"
Brakspear - "over 150"
Everards - "over 175"
Harvey's - 49
Holts - 122
Hook Norton - 47
Hydes - 58
Lees - 172
McMullen - 128
Palmers - 55
St Austell - "over 170"

[rpadam]

A few more minor players from the Independent Family Brewers of Britain website:
Arkell's - 103
Bateman's - "nearly 70"
Brakspear - "over 150"
Everards - "over 175"
Harvey's - 49
Holts - 122
Hook Norton - 47
Hydes - 58
Lees - 172
McMullen - 128
Palmers - 55
St Austell - "over 170"

And some more numbers here (although its not clear how up-to-date this is):
http://www.pubexpertsguide.co.uk/lis...m?CategoryID=7

[rpadam]

And some more numbers here (although its not clear how up-to-date this is):
http://www.pubexpertsguide.co.uk/lis...m?CategoryID=7

Sam Smiths - "in the region of 200" (https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/pubs/)