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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangolin View Post
    Quite surprisingly there are only 3 on the 1931 list that are no longer pubs:

    The Fountain, Canterbury was destroyed in an air raid in 1942
    The Saracen's Head in Newark closed in 1956 and is now Barclays Bank
    The George, Winchcombe, closed in 1989 and was converted to shops/residential.
    The (Old) George in Salisbury is now the Boston Tea Party café?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Quite so and here's the list Thomas Burke gave in The English Inn (1931) not much overlap.

    The Fighting Cocks, St Albans 795
    The Fountain, Canterbury 1029
    The Bell, Finedon 1042
    The Ostrich, Colnbrook 1106
    The Angel, Grantham 1213
    The Angel, Blyth (Notts) 1270
    The George & Dragon, Speldhurst 1270
    The Maid's Head, Norwich 1287
    The Green Man, Erdington 1306
    The George, Salisbury 1320
    The Saracen's Head, Newark 1341
    The Crown, Chiddingfold 1383
    The George, Norton St Philip 1397
    The New Inn, Gloucester 1430
    The Spread Eagle, Midhurst 1430
    The King's Head, Aylesbury 1445
    The Red Lion, Colchester 1470
    The George, Glastobury 1475
    The Lion, Buckden 1477
    The George, Southwark 1554
    The Bull, Long Melford 1580
    The George, Winchcombe 1583
    The Abergavenny Arms in Frant claims 1442 here: Our History

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Five, Clachan Inn, Olde Man & Sythe, Olde Trip, Olde Salutation, Olde Fighting Cocks.



    Quite so and here's the list Thomas Burke gave in The English Inn (1931) not much overlap.

    The Fighting Cocks, St Albans 795
    The Fountain, Canterbury 1029
    The Bell, Finedon 1042
    The Ostrich, Colnbrook 1106
    The Angel, Grantham 1213
    The Angel, Blyth (Notts) 1270
    The George & Dragon, Speldhurst 1270
    The Maid's Head, Norwich 1287
    The Green Man, Erdington 1306
    The George, Salisbury 1320
    The Saracen's Head, Newark 1341
    The Crown, Chiddingfold 1383
    The George, Norton St Philip 1397
    The New Inn, Gloucester 1430
    The Spread Eagle, Midhurst 1430
    The King's Head, Aylesbury 1445
    The Red Lion, Colchester 1470
    The George, Glastobury 1475
    The Lion, Buckden 1477
    The George, Southwark 1554
    The Bull, Long Melford 1580
    The George, Winchcombe 1583

    He says it's not a full list and adds:

    "To me it is a matter of no importance: they can fight it out among themselves in the company of the claimants to the largest market place, the ugliest Town Hall, the shortest street and the tallest hollyhock. It is enough for me that I enjoy these places and, through them, touch the earth that produced the flower of the Canterbury Tales and the Vision of Piers Plowman.
    A fascinating list, but I wonder just how many of the oldest are still the same structure - the Bell apparently now dates from 1598.

    Off the top of my head, here are some old ones too, but at least three are late Victorian/early Edwardian rebuilds. The Feathers isn't that old (1603), but certainly knows how to show off its wood to best effect - should reopen soon too.

    Ye Olde Black Bear, 1308 and reputedly the county's oldest inn.
    The Old Red Lion, 1415 (1899).
    Soul Store West as the Red Lion, 1444 (1890).
    The Wrestlers, 1547 (1922).
    Spaniards Inn, 1585.
    The Feathers Hotel, 1603

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpadam View Post
    The (Old) George in Salisbury is now the Boston Tea Party café?
    Oops - missed that one! make it 4.
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    How about coming up with an agreed set of criteria and then producing a Pubsgalore Top 10 Oldest Pubs list ?

    I would be interested in the following.

    1. Building in near continuous use selling alcohol to the general public and still in use for that purpose today.
    2. Original building dating back to it's opening date,no complete rebuilds.
    3 No movement of the operation to another building at another site,original site only.
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    The Tipperary in Fleet St previously the Boars Head 1443

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondo View Post
    Nicely on point, hondo! Eight for me: Shakespeare's, Fat Cat, Harlequin, KIT, Rutland Arms, University Arms, Sheffield Tap, Bath Hotel. A couple more seem vaguely familiar, but I honestly can't remember if I've been, or not. Still, that's what happens when you drink with 'trainman'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hondo View Post
    10 ticked so far,hoping to add to that tally significantly on July 12th.
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    16 for me. I thought it would be more to be honest.

    I'll see if I can tick a couple more off over the crawl, although almost all I haven't done aren't on the route.
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