IPA's - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

[Wittenden]

One for the good and I know it will appeal to those that don't like being bombarded with New World hops.
It's Red Squirrel English IPA (5.0%) and is orange in colour rather than brown or straw. It didn't have much hop aroma but did have a good hop bite for a 5% beer. It will never be my favourite from the list but I'm sure there are people who would take to it in preference to the hop bombs made with foreign hops.

Sounds like my kind of beer...

[aleandhearty]

One for the good and I know it will appeal to those that don't like being bombarded with New World hops.
It's Red Squirrel English IPA (5.0%) and is orange in colour rather than brown or straw. It didn't have much hop aroma but did have a good hop bite for a 5% beer. It will never be my favourite from the list but I'm sure there are people who would take to it in preference to the hop bombs made with foreign hops.

Will definitely keep an eye out for this. It will be interesting to compare it to Red Squirrel's American Pale Ale, which I think is a superb beer and one of my BOTYs, last year.

[Thuck Phat]

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Alchemy - Galaxy Burst IPA 5.3% (LC)
Animal Brewing - Bastard Bunny Brew Ha Ha 7.2% (TP)
Blue Monkey - Ape Ale 5.4% (TP)
Darkstar - Green Hopped IPA 6.5% (PoH, MD)
Downton - Endeavour IPA 10% (TP)
Hart Family Brewers - 1833 IPA 6.6% (TP)
Hopcraft/Northern Monk - Crafty Monk (red IPA) 5.7% (TP)
Hopcraft - The Beast 6.5% (Aqua)
Ilkley - Lotus IPA 5.6% (TP, A&H, BF)
London Fields - Shoreditch Triangle IPA 6% (Aqua, MD)
Marble - Lagonda IPA 5% (TP)
Oakham - Untouchable IPA 9% (TP)
Roosters - Baby Faced Assassin 6.1% (A&H)
Roosters/Odells - The Accomplice 5.7% (A&H)
Salopian - Automaton 7% (MD)
Salopian - Kashmir 5.5% (TP)
Signature Brew - Black Tongue 8.3% (MD)
Siren Craft - Ryezing Tide IPA 7.4% (MD)
Siren Craft - Soundwave 5.6% (MD, Aqua)

The Good

Acorn - Barnsley IPA 5% (Aqua)
Acorn - Calypso IPA 5% (OT)
Acorn - Millenium IPA 5% (TP)
Acorn - Santiam IPA 5% (O Blue)
Acorn - Scorachi IPA 5.5% (TP)
Acorn - Sybilla IPA 5% (TP)
Acorn - Thunder Struck Black IPA 5.7% (Aqua)
Acorn - Transatlantic IPA 4.8% (MD)
Alchemy - Citra Burst IPA 5.4% (MD)
Alchemy - Dr. Rudi Burst 5.3% (MD)
Anarchy - Anti-Venom 6.1% (TP)
Andwell - Red IPA 4.5% (MD)
Art Brew - Monkey and Spanked Monkey 6.4% (TP)
Backyard - Penda Black IPA 5.5% (Aqua)
Banks/Green Flash - Citra Session IPA 4.5% (TP)
Beavertown - 8 Ball Rye IPA 6.2% (BF)
Bingham - Space Hoppy IPA 5% (TP)
Blackjack - Black IPA 5.8% (BF)
Black Jack - Royal Flush 5% (TP)
Brains - IPA 3.4% (Mil)
Brewdog Hardcore IPA 9.2% (Sp)
Brew Dog - Punk IPA 5.6% (Keg) (TP)
Brodies - Dalston Black IPA 9% (Keykeg) (Aqua)
Brodies - Hackney Red IPA 6.1% (Keykeg) (Aqua)
Buxton - Axe Edge Double IPA 6.8% (PSM)
Canterbury - Loco IPA 3.9% (Wit)
Castle Rock - Screech Owl 5.5% (MD)
Chapel Down - Curious IPA 5.6% keg (Wit)
Clarence & Frederick - IPA 5.2% (Aqua)
Clouded Minds - Black Pike IPA 6.1% (Aqua)
Clouded Minds - Dolce Vita IPA 6.2% (Aqua)
Clun - Citadel 5.9% (OT)
Conwy - Riptide 4.3% (Aqua)
Crate - IPA 5.8% (MD)
Dancing Duck - Abduction IPA 5.5% (Dan B)
Darkstar - Belgian IPA Bottled 7.2% (MD)
Darkstar - Indian Summer IPA 6% (MD)
Elgoods - Cambridge IPA 4.7% (A1)
Elland - Big Dog IPA 4.9% (OT)
Fernandes - Motueka IPA 4.3% (A&H)
Flipside - Empress Rupee 5.8% (Aqua)
Fullers - Benghal Lancer 5% (TP)
Fyne Ales/Siren Craft - Wee Milky Way 3.1% (black) (MD)
Gadds - East Kent India Pale Ale 6.5% (RPA)
Great Heck - Citra 4.5% (OB)
Great Heck - Shankar IPA 5.9% (A&H)
Great Heck - Yakima IPA 7.4% (A&H)
Greene King - Double Hop Monster IPA 7.2% (Aqua)
Green Mill - Delta Star IPA 5% (TP)
Gyle 59 - IPA 5.3% (unfined) (MD)
Harviestoun - Wild Hop IPA 5.2% (O Blue)
Highland Brewing Co. - Orkney IPA 4.8% (Aqua)
Hopcraft - Fault Line Black IPA 6.0% (Aqua)
Hopcraft - Ta Moko Black IPA 5.5% (Aqua)
Hopdeamon - Skrimshander IPA 4.5% (Wit)
Hop Stuff - Renegade 5.5% (Aqua)
Ironbridge - IPA 4% (OT)
Itchen Valley - IPA 5% (TP)
Kent Brewery - Enigma Black IPA 5.5% (AL)
The Kernel - Citra IPA 6.2% (Sp)
Kernel - Simcoe IPA 7.9% (PoH)
Kingstone - Humpty's Fuddle IPA 5.8% (bottled) (A1)
Kinver - Khyber IPA 5.8% (Aqua)
Kirkstall - Dissolution 5% (OB)
Lincoln Green - Sheriffs IPA 5.5% (A1)
Magic Rock - Craft Magic 3.2% (PoH)
Marble - Dobber 5.9% (OB)
Marstons - Revisionist Dark IPA 4.8% (MD)
Milk Street - Gulp IPA 4.8% (MD)
Mordue - IPA 5.1% (MD)
Moor - Pacific IPA 6% (OB)
Navigation - Classic IPA 5.2% (A1)
Northern Monk - New World IPA (keg) 6.2% (TP)
Oakham - Green Devil IPA 6% (O Blue)
Off Beat - Out of Step IPA 5.8% (TP)
Old Dairy - Blue Top 4.8% (Wit)
Old Dairy - Hop Top Double 9% (RPA)
Orkney - Wayfarers IPA 5% (A1)
Penzance Brewing - IPA (BF)
Pheonix - West Coast IPA (TP)
Phipps NBC - Gold Star 5.2% (TP)
Pixie Spring - Prince of Bengal IPA 5.5% (MD)
Poppylands - East Coast IPA 6.8% (bottle)(TP)
Portobello - Apache IPA 7% (Aqua)
Rat - King Rat (Sp)
RCH Hewish IPA (MD)
Red Squirrel - English IPA 5% (Aqua)
Red Squirrel - Jack Black 4.8% (MD)
Red Squirrel - Redwood American IPA (BF)
Redemption - Big Chief (PSM)
Redwillow - Ageless IPA 7.2% (Aqua)
Redwillow - Shameless IPA 5.9% (TP)
Ridgeside Southern Cross (TP)
Roosters - Anniversary IPA 6% (TP)
Roosters - Fort Smith 5% (MD)
Rother Valley - Northian Imperial Pale Ale NIPA 5% (MD)
Sharps - Atlantic IPA (MD)
Sierra Nevada - Torpedo IPA (Sp)
Siren Craft Brew - Liquid Mistress West Coast Red IPA (Aqua)
Slaters - Emporer IPA 7% (BF)
Staggeringly Good - VelociRapture 6.5% (MD)
St Austell - Cornish IPA (TP)
St Austell - Proper Job (MD)
Stone - Ruination IPA (Sp)
Summer Wine - Diablo IPA (PSM)
Summer Wine - Kahuna (A&H)
Sunny Republic - Hop Dog 5.5% (PSM)
Surrey Hills - Greensand IPA 4.6% (MD)
Thornbridge - Jaipur IPA 5.9% (TP)
Thornbridge - Seaforth IPA (RobC)
Thwaites - Indus IPA (MD)
Tigertops - New Wave IPA 4.6% (A&H)
Tillingbourne - Hop Troll 4.8% (MD)
Tiny Rebel - Urban IPA (OT)
Titanic - Nine Tenths Below 5.9% (TP)
Tring - XL IPA (Mil)
Triple fff - Jabberwocky Black IPA 5% (Aqua)
Tryst - Carronade IPA 4.2% (TP)
Tryst - Raj IPA 5.5% (TP)
Turner's - Indian Pale Ale 5.1% (Wit)
Twickenham - Black Eel IPA 5% (MD)
Wadsworths - Henrys IPA (A1)
Wantsun - IPA (OT)
Weird Beard - Hit the Lights 5.8% (MD)
Wensleydale - Decadence 5.3% (OB)
West Coast - IPA 6.3% (A&H)
Whim - Hartington IPA (A1)
Whitehorse Saracen IPA (MD)
Wild Beer Company - Madness IPA 6.8% (TP)
Wild Card - Queen of Diamonds IPA 5.0% (Aqua)
Williams - Caesar Augustus Bottled 4.1% (TP)
Windor & Eton - Conqueror Black IPA (Aqua)
Windsor & Eton - Irish Conqueror Black IPA 5.8% (Aqua)
XT - 15 4.5% (MD)
Yeovil - Posh IPA 5.4% (PSM, Aqua)

The Bad

Brains - IPA
Caledonian - Deuchars IPA
Caledonian - McEwan's IPA 4.7% (Quinno)
Daleside - Square Rigger IPA 4.5% (Aqua)
Elgoods - Cambridge IPA 4.7% (Aqua)
Everards - Regimental IPA 5% (TP)
Felinfoel - IPA 3.5% (Aqua)
Greene King - IPA Gold (MD)
Greene King - IPA
Harveys - IPA 3.2% (LC)
Holts - IPA (A&H)
Hooded Ram - Little King Louis IPA 6% (SH)
Marlow - Rebellion IPA
McMullen's - IPA (BF)
Mighty Oak - IPA 3.5% (Aqua)
Phipps - NBC India Pale Ale (TP)
Sierra Nevada - Torpedo IPA (Wit)
St Austell - Podium IPA (TP)
Three Tuns - Clerics Cure BABOTW (MD)
Tring - XL IPA (TP)
Wadworth's - Henry's IPA 3.6% (BG)
Warwickshire Beer Company - Ballsitcher IPA 5% (TP)
Wells - Eagle IPA

The Nostalgic

Charringtons - IPA (ND)
Ridleys - IPA (Aqua)

The Unclassified

By The Horns - Black and White IPA (TM)

[london calling]

I agree with your thoughts on the Revelation, although not stated as an IPA, its definitely a hop monster.

Revelation is one of Dark Star,s finest and is an APA.

[Aqualung]

Revelation is one of Dark Star,s finest and is an APA.

I think it is the finest by a mile of their regulars but there is a dispute on the APA thread about where an American IPA should go.
I don't really care to be honest! To me an APA is just an IPA brewed with only American hops. The most important point is whether it's any good. It's not my list so I'm happy for TP to decide what's best.
I was tempted to start a similar thread about mild but was put off by the discussions (including by myself) about what is a dark bitter and what is a real mild. Some milds are so very obviously the real deal but I have never regarded the worthy 6% Sarah Hughes as a mild.

Going back to Revelation, I'm sure I read somewhere that the brewer wanted it to be their APA but someone decided it was too strong to sell.
My local Spoons got some Jaipur in last weekend for the first time ever. It barely lasted two days despite being 60p dearer than the standard guests and NO, I didn't drink it all!

[Thuck Phat]

Revelation is one of Dark Star,s finest and is an APA.

Updated in the APA thread.

[Thuck Phat]

The most important point is whether it's any good.

Spot on and the real point of both the IPA and APA lists.

The discussions can be an entertaining diversion though.

[london calling]

I think it is the finest by a mile of their regulars but there is a dispute on the APA thread about where an American IPA should go.
I don't really care to be honest! To me an APA is just an IPA brewed with only American hops. The most important point is whether it's any good. It's not my list so I'm happy for TP to decide what's best.
I was tempted to start a similar thread about mild but was put off by the discussions (including by myself) about what is a dark bitter and what is a real mild. Some milds are so very obviously the real deal but I have never regarded the worthy 6% Sarah Hughes as a mild.

Going back to Revelation, I'm sure I read somewhere that the brewer wanted it to be their APA but someone decided it was too strong to sell.
My local Spoons got some Jaipur in last weekend for the first time ever. It barely lasted two days despite being 60p dearer than the standard guests and NO, I didn't drink it all!

Bit confusing really but an APA is their version of our pale ale (bitter) using American hops and we do strong bitters so strength doesn't matter .American ipa is their version of our IPA using American hops.But new Craft brewers do anything they want with beer and call it what they like.Had a Buxton xs mild 2.9 at the weekend.Pale yellow ,cloudy with yeast and sour.Now I cant see why that's a mild.

[Al 10000]

One for the good list,

Elgoods Cambridge IPA 4.7% it sailed past the 3 pint test and would have gone past the 6 pint test but it ran out in our local Spoons after 5 pints,the wife also liked it
and had 4 halfs and 1 pint,very drinkable.

[Thuck Phat]

One for the good list,

Elgoods Cambridge IPA 4.7% it sailed past the 3 pint test and would have gone past the 6 pint test but it ran out in our local Spoons after 5 pints,the wife also liked it
and had 4 halfs and 1 pint,very drinkable.

A well tested recommendation. Updated.