IPA's - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

[Brewguru]

Can I put in a request for Wadworths Henry's IPA to go into the Bad category, it currently resides in "good" and at 3.6 hardly an IPA and it is not good.

[Mobyduck]

Can I put in a request for Wadworths Henry's IPA to go into the Bad category, it currently resides in "good" and at 3.6 hardly an IPA and it is not good.

I have to agree, I thought I had nominated this in the past as such, but obviously not, must have been a bad beer of the week some when, poor anyway.

[Thuck Phat]

Updated for the above.

I'll also put forward Poppylands East Coast IPA for the Good at 6.8%. This really is excellent and I tried the bottled version. I suspect on draught it may be a contender for A&H's F*****g Brilliant.



A&H's F*****g Brilliant

Alchemy - Galaxy Burst IPA 5.3% (LC)
Blue Monkey - Ape Ale 5.4% (TP)
Darkstar - Green Hopped IPA 6.5% (PoH, MD)
Downton - Endeavour IPA 10% (TP)
Hopcraft/Northern Monk - Crafty Monk (red IPA) 5.7% (TP)
Hopcraft - The Beast 6.5% (Aqua)
Ilkley - Lotus IPA 5.6% (TP, A&H, BF)
London Fields - Shoreditch Triangle IPA 6% (Aqua, MD)
Marble - Lagonda IPA 5% (TP)
Oakham - Untouchable IPA 9% (TP)
Roosters/Odells - The Accomplice 5.7% (A&H)
Salopian - Automaton 7% (MD)
Salopian - Kashmir 5.5% (TP)
Signature Brew - Black Tongue 8.3% (MD)
Siren Craft - Ryezing Tide IPA 7.4% (MD)
Siren Craft - Soundwave 5.6% (MD, Aqua)

The Good

Acorn - Barnsley IPA 5% (Aqua)
Acorn - Calypso IPA 5% (OT)
Acorn - Millenium IPA 5% (TP)
Acorn - Santiam IPA 5% (O Blue)
Acorn - Scorachi IPA 5.5% (TP)
Acorn - Sybilla IPA 5% (TP)
Acorn - Thunder Struck Black IPA 5.7% (Aqua)
Acorn - Transatlantic IPA 4.8% (MD)
Alchemy - Citra Burst IPA 5.4% (MD)
Alchemy - Dr. Rudi Burst 5.3% (MD)
Andwell - Red IPA 4.5% (MD)
Art Brew - Monkey and Spanked Monkey 6.4% (TP)
Backyard - Penda Black IPA 5.5% (Aqua)
Banks/Green Flash - Citra Session IPA 4.5% (TP)
Beavertown - 8 Ball Rye IPA 6.2% (BF)
Bingham - Space Hoppy IPA 5% (TP)
Blackjack - Black IPA 5.8% (BF)
Black Jack - Royal Flush 5% (TP)
Brains - IPA 3.4% (Mil)
Brewdog Hardcore IPA 9.2% (Sp)
Brew Dog - Punk IPA 5.6% (Keg) (TP)
Brodies - Dalston Black IPA 9% (Keykeg) (Aqua)
Brodies - Hackney Red IPA 6.1% (Keykeg) (Aqua)
Buxton - Axe Edge Double IPA 6.8% (PSM)
Canterbury - Loco IPA 3.9% (Wit)
Castle Rock - Screech Owl 5.5% (MD)
Chapel Down - Curious IPA 5.6% keg (Wit)
Clarence & Frederick - IPA 5.2% (Aqua)
Clouded Minds - Black Pike IPA 6.1% (Aqua)
Clouded Minds - Dolce Vita IPA 6.2% (Aqua)
Clun - Citadel 5.9% (OT)
Conwy - Riptide 4.3% (Aqua)
Crate - IPA 5.8% (MD)
Dancing Duck - Abduction IPA 5.5% (Dan B)
Darkstar - Belgian IPA Bottled 7.2% (MD)
Darkstar - Indian Summer IPA 6% (MD)
Elland - Big Dog IPA 4.9% (OT)
Fernandes - Motueka IPA 4.3% (A&H)
Fullers - Benghal Lancer 5% (TP)
Great Heck - Citra 4.5% (OB)
Great Heck - Shankar IPA 5.9% (A&H)
Great Heck - Yakima IPA 7.4% (A&H)
Greene King - Double Hop Monster IPA 7.2% (Aqua)
Green Mill - Delta Star IPA 5% (TP)
Gyle 59 - IPA 5.3% (unfined) (MD)
Hart - 1833 IPA 6.6% (bottled) (TP)
Harviestoun - Wild Hop IPA 5.2% (O Blue)
Highland Brewing Co. - Orkney IPA 4.8% (Aqua)
Hopcraft - Fault Line Black IPA 6.0% (Aqua)
Hopcraft - Ta Moko Black IPA 5.5% (Aqua)
Hopdeamon - Skrimshander IPA 4.5% (Wit)
Hop Stuff - Renegade 5.5% (Aqua)
Ironbridge - IPA 4% (OT)
Itchen Valley - IPA 5% (TP)
Kent Brewery - Enigma Black IPA 5.5% (AL)
The Kernel - Citra IPA 6.2% (Sp)
Kernel - Simcoe IPA 7.9% (PoH)
Kingstone - Humpty's Fuddle IPA 5.8% (bottled) (A1)
Kinver - Khyber IPA 5.8% (Aqua)
Kirkstall - Dissolution 5% (OB)
Lincoln Green - Sheriffs IPA 5.5% (A1)
Magic Rock - Craft Magic 3.2% (PoH)
Marble - Dobber 5.9% (OB)
Marstons - Revisionist Dark IPA 4.8% (MD)
Milk Street - Gulp IPA 4.8% (MD)
Mordue - IPA 5.1% (MD)
Moor - Pacific IPA 6% (OB)
Navigation - Classic IPA 5.2% (A1)
Northern Monk - New World IPA (keg) 6.2% (TP)
Oakham - Green Devil IPA 6% (O Blue)
Off Beat - Out of Step IPA 5.8% (TP)
Old Dairy - Blue Top 4.8% (Wit)
Old Dairy - Hop Top Double 9% (RPA)
Orkney - Wayfarers IPA 5% (A1)
Penzance Brewing - IPA (BF)
Pheonix - West Coast IPA (TP)
Phipps NBC - Gold Star 5.2% (TP)
Pixie Spring - Prince of Bengal IPA 5.5% (MD)
Poppylands - East Coast IPA 6.8% (bottle)(TP)
Portobello - Apache IPA 7% (Aqua)
Rat - King Rat (Sp)
RCH Hewish IPA (MD)
Red Squirrel - Jack Black 4.8% (MD)
Red Squirrel - Redwood American IPA (BF)
Redemption - Big Chief (PSM)
Redwillow - Ageless IPA 7.2% (Aqua)
Redwillow - Shameless IPA 5.9% (TP)
Ridgeside Southern Cross (TP)
Roosters - Anniversary IPA 6% (TP)
Roosters - Fort Smith 5% (MD)
Rother Valley - Northian Imperial Pale Ale NIPA 5% (MD)
Sharps - Atlantic IPA (MD)
Sierra Nevada - Torpedo IPA (Sp)
Siren Craft Brew - Liquid Mistress West Coast Red IPA (Aqua)
St Austell - Cornish IPA (TP)
St Austell - Proper Job (MD)
Stone - Ruination IPA (Sp)
Summer Wine - Diablo IPA (PSM)
Summer Wine - Kahuna (A&H)
Sunny Republic - Hop Dog 5.5% (PSM)
Surrey Hills - Greensand IPA 4.6% (MD)
Thornbridge - Jaipur IPA 5.9% (TP)
Thornbridge - Seaforth IPA (RobC)
Thwaites - Indus IPA (MD)
Tigertops - New Wave IPA 4.6% (A&H)
Tiny Rebel - Urban IPA (OT)
Titanic - Nine Tenths Below 5.9% (TP)
Tring - XL IPA (Mil)
Triple fff - Jabberwocky Black IPA 5% (Aqua)
Tryst - Carronade IPA 4.2% (TP)
Tryst - Raj IPA 5.5% (TP)
Twickenham - Black Eel IPA 5% (MD)
Wadsworths - Henrys IPA (A1)
Wantsun - IPA (OT)
Weird Beard - Hit the Lights 5.8% (MD)
Wensleydale - Decadence 5.3% (OB)
West Coast - IPA 6.3% (A&H)
Whim - Hartington IPA (A1)
Whitehorse Saracen IPA (MD)
Wild Card - Queen of Diamonds IPA 5.0% (Aqua)
Williams - Caesar Augustus Bottled 4.1% (TP)
Windor & Eton - Conqueror Black IPA (Aqua)
Windsor & Eton - Irish Conqueror Black IPA 5.8% (Aqua)
Yeovil - Posh IPA 5.4% (PSM, Aqua)

The Bad

Brains - IPA
Caledonian - Deuchars IPA
Daleside - Square Rigger IPA 4.5% (Aqua)
Everards - Regimental IPA 5% (TP)
Felinfoel - IPA 3.5% (Aqua)
Greene King - IPA Gold (MD)
Greene King - IPA
Harveys - IPA 3.2% (LC)
Holts - IPA (A&H)
Hooded Ram - Little King Louis IPA 6% (SH)
Marlow - Rebellion IPA
McMullen's - IPA (BF)
Mighty Oak - IPA 3.5% (Aqua)
Phipps - NBC India Pale Ale (TP)
Sierra Nevada - Torpedo IPA (Wit)
St Austell - Podium IPA (TP)
Three Tuns - Clerics Cure BABOTW (MD)
Tring - XL IPA (TP)
Wadworth's - Henry's IPA 3.6% (BG)
Warwickshire Beer Company - Ballsitcher IPA 5% (TP)
Wells - Eagle IPA

The Nostalgic

Charringtons - IPA (ND)
Ridleys - IPA (Aqua)

The Unclassified

By The Horns - Black and White IPA (TM)

[sheffield hatter]

I don't often drink IPAs as I find them either too strong or too citrussy. However, I thought I'd give this one a go when I was in the University Arms tonight: it was completely tasteless and gave no impression of being high in alcohol either.* It could have been any bland, blonde session beer, not at all bitter but with a slight after-taste of sherbet. I'm not sure I would categorise it as Bad, though (it was perfectly drinkable), so how about a new category:

The Bland

Hooded Ram Little King Louis IPA 6.0%

* I had a couple of pints of stout beforehand - nothing excessively tasty, though.

[Mobyduck]

I think ,if its not too much hassle, an indifferent category would be good, hang on a minute ! , if you follow my drift, I can think of one of my goods,Andwell Red IPA, is not bad but really much more indifferent than good, and doesn't stand up to many of the other residents in the same section.

NO.You cant have an indifferent category because every IPA would fit into some category.Have you ever saw a list of MY TOP TEN AVERAGE BEERS .NO.we already have a confusing list.
Williams -caeser augustus (its a lager imo)
roosters -fort smith (its a golden /blonde beer imo)
sierra nev -torpedo ipa (in both great and shit lists imo one of the great ipa,s but I don't vote on ipa,s so it doesn't matter what I think.
yeah and Moby I think you should reconsider Andwell -red ipa but if you caught it on a good night which I didn't. maybe. cheers john
SORRyY QUINNO FOR THE USE OF SO MANY CAPITALS.

I don't often drink IPAs as I find them either too strong or too citrussy. However, I thought I'd give this one a go when I was in the University Arms tonight: it was completely tasteless and gave no impression of being high in alcohol either.* It could have been any bland, blonde session beer, not at all bitter but with a slight after-taste of sherbet. I'm not sure I would categorise it as Bad, though (it was perfectly drinkable), so how about a new category:

The Bland

Hooded Ram Little King Louis IPA 6.0%

* I had a couple of pints of stout beforehand - nothing excessively tasty, though.

My Indifferent category didn't come to fruition, L.C didn't like the idea anyway, so don't hold your breath. I reckon Bland is bad anyway IMO.

[sheffield hatter]

My Indifferent category didn't come to fruition, L.C didn't like the idea anyway, so don't hold your breath. I reckon Bland is bad anyway IMO.

I guess you're right. If an IPA isn't in your face, it's a poor attempt at an IPA, is it?

[Mobyduck]

I guess you're right. If an IPA isn't in your face, it's a poor attempt at an IPA, is it?

Along those lines I think.

[Wittenden]

I'm not too fussed about bad or good catagories-One man's meat ect, but as the one who condemned Sierra Nevada Torpedo to the naughty step, I'd like to reconsider. Nothing wrong with it,except it was, to my taste, undrinkably bitter, and that's going some. I haven't gone back to it,perhaps if I did, I would enjoy it.
I don't often come across IPAs in my travels, but today I drank and enjoyed Curious IPA from Chapel Down (a sucessful and expanding Kent vineyard and winery.) This was contract brewed at Hepworth's in Horsham ,though the word is that they will brew at their home in Smallhythe.Not overly hoppy, but with a good earthy quality,and a long berry fruit finish.Shock horror,it was served on keg-a first for me.
The "fizz" from the keg was noticeable, and I would have prefered it from the cask, but it was very drinkable.

[Thuck Phat]

Updated both above with the King Louis IPA in the Bad category as SH and MD concluded.

[Mobyduck]

Had a pint of XT 15 yesterday, described as an English IPA ,triple hopped with new English hop variety's, only 4.5% and not very in your face but a pleasant drink anyway, I'm not sure its a real IPA but thats how its named and wasnt bad, so I guess it should go in the good.