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    Default Completed site release (The areas release)

    At some point in the next 24 hours we will do a new release of the Pubs Galore main site, it will probably require us to offline the site for about 30 mins as this is a significant release. I am expecting to do it late morning on Friday, but we will see how it all works out with the various preparatory steps,

    Basically it will just include the new area code and a look and feel redesign. It will probably take a little getting used to but please be patient and hopefully you will find it an improvement. Also with a release this long in coming and this big, there are bound to be bugs, just report them and we will look and see what we can do.

    The current site is based around location, with a hierarchy as follows:
    Country, County, Postal Town, Surrounding Area (Optional)

    Where a pub is in a surrounding area it is sort of hidden away on the Postal Town (but still there).

    With the new release we are removing the surrounding areas as a constraint on the pub (read on they are not lost).

    So going down through the site it will have the following changes

    Country pages are unchanged

    County pages now show all the Postal Towns as before but also show all the new areas more prominently than before, we have also removed a tiny bit of the Google Maps functionality.

    Town pages are now Postal District pages to make it clearer, these pages no longer have the map on them as it won't help and will slow down an already slow page. The top of the page will just be a list of all the areas in the Postal District as you will hopefully find the new area pages more useful. Below this is the latest activity as usual, which can now be minimised, and then a list of all the pubs in the postal district in alphabetic order, the pubs will be listed as you are used to, but will have a list of the new areas they serve as part of the list (multiple areas may be served, solving some of the issues like central London bunching).

    Area pages are a new addition, they are basically the old town pages, latest activity shows at the top and can be minimised. Then there is a list of pubs alongside the map.

    You will be able to set the areas, and ultimately we expect every pub to have at least one area, so where where a pub is in Bristol city centre then it should belong to the Bristol Central area.

    To set up the areas go to a pubs page and click on the "Correct details" button, there will then be the new option "Setup pubs locations". Click on this and you will be provided with 4 types of option.

    Areas currently listed will allow you to click on an area that the pub is listed in and ask for it to be removed.

    Other areas nearby will allow you to click on an area that is near the pub but not in the pubs list of areas and ask for it to be added.

    New area will allow you to add an area to the pub that is not already listed in the locality of the pub. Just type the name of the area (taking care of the spelling please) and click on Add area.

    Main area allows you to add one of the areas to the address. This one is a little confusing, it should be used where the town is in a different town to the postal district and allows you to add the area to the pubs address. It is rather like the behaviour when we previously added pubs to a postal towns surrounding area. If the pub is in the central area of the town and should use the postal district as its town then set it to be the postal town and no area will be added to the address, it should never be set to the central area (eg. Bristol Central).

    And just click on "Finish area corrections" to close this panel.

    Any existing surrounding areas will be set on the pub and added as the main area for the pub.

    We are expecting a bit of deluge when this goes live as people get the hang of it and sort out their favourite areas. Whilst this is happening we will not be approving pub links in order, we will prioritise licensees adding their own pubs, but leaving the chain links that regularly get added. This is because these take us a significant time to approve and we need to prioritise the work we complete, sorry about that.

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    Ok, this is now out and able to be used.

    Let me know what you think and if you have any questions.

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    Conrad,

    First buglet for you.

    On the front page when you hover on picture or review or blog etc if you hover over the second or third one etc. It still shows the contents of the first one.

    e.g. If you hover over review for The Queens Head it say closed and boarded, if you move down the page it flashes up the correct latest review of The Albion but then when you then hover over the underlined pub name for the Albion it still shows the Queens Head review.

    Hope that makes sense.
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    It does indeed, will try and look at that one later. I can live with that for a short while at least.

    Thanks for letting me know.

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    Hi Conrad,

    I found the same problem as Rob and i also found on the Nottingham home page a new listing for the Duck Inn in Chorley Bridgenorth this pub has a Wolverhampton post code.

    I also thought the main listing with all the pubs in Nottingham looked a bit awkward it was like i had clicked on the show pubs for every area in Nottingham i used to use this facility on the old system but then hid the pubs which made the list look neater.

    I do undestand this is a new system and i am one of those people who dont like change that much and i will hopefully get to like the new format and forget the old one which i thought was good enough.

    Alan

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    Conrad,

    The new system of assigning pubs to areas seems to be working fine. I've had a little play around with it and it's easy to use and (so far) bug free. Congratulations!

    I've found a glitch similar to Alan's (above): Cross Keys Inn, Kinnerley, Oswestry SY10 8DB appears at the foot of the Cumbria page (under the banner "Recently added pubs for Cumbria". Oswestry is, of course, in Shropshire. Sorry to be banging on about geography again.

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    We need postal districts to have central areas added to them, so a Nottingham Central. Once this has happened up and down the country I am hoping the 'Nottingham Postal District' page (and equivalent) will become largely redundant. But until then I think it is going to be a little messy being honest.

    The Duck Inn will have always been under Chorley, postal town: Bridgnorth. I am just investigating it now, thanks for the pointer.

    I will certainly be interested to see how this evolves, particularly in places like Central London where 1 pub can touch multiple districts.

    Edit, just checked the Royal Mail, the Duck Inn is correctly assigned to the Postal Town of Bridgnorth.

    Edit, edit: And misunderstood what you were saying, looking at what sheffield hatter said it becomes clear, definitely a bug. Will check later and report fix on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    I've found a glitch similar to Alan's (above): Cross Keys Inn, Kinnerley, Oswestry SY10 8DB appears at the foot of the Cumbria page (under the banner "Recently added pubs for Cumbria". Oswestry is, of course, in Shropshire. Sorry to be banging on about geography again.
    Similarly to Alan's this was always like this, there is a pattern between these 2 . We have mistakenly accepted pubs that had impossible combinations.

    Edit: I take that back, this one is a bug. I will investigate later. Bl**dy knackered now and it is beer O'Clock

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    Sorry to bother you again Conrad,

    I have just been on the Dronfield list as i was looking at pubs in Holmefield how do you get a seperate list for pubs in Dronfield without the Holmsfield and apperknole pubs.
    I look at places like Dronfield to see if its worth going there to do a pub crawl but it is now hard work seeing which pubs are in which town or village.

    Thanks Alan

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    Looks like Conrad's off to the pub!

    I usually use the maps for designing a pub crawl. If you pick the centre of town (The Rock is nearest to the station) and then enlarge or reduce the map until you've got a reasonable number of pubs, you'll see a list of the pubs on the right hand side of the map pane. If you hover your mouse pointer over a map point, the pub's name becomes bold. If you hover over a name, the map pointer lights up.

    Going by what you've said before, I wouldn't have thought there were enough pubs in Dronfield to make the trip worth your while, unless you include Dronfield Woodhouse and maybe Coal Aston too. Enjoy!
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