What should be included on PG

[oldboots]

I'd certainly agree with OB's last three points. I think the first one is slightly tricker. I've added a couple of bars that don't sell any draught beer, so on that basis these should be deleted. Fair enough if that's the concencus, I don't have a problem with that. But there are many restaurants that have a small bar area at the front that although may be mainly used by diners there's nothing to stop anyone wandering in and having just a drink, and many of these will sell something on draught.

So if we follow that to the letter, we'd have lots of restaurants on here, but we'd be missing several bars that are just drinking establishments.

For me, and the list was my personal definition of a "pub" and not a drinking establishment, draught beer and "pub" are inseparable. I think places that sell alcohol but not draught beers are "bars" and that's not to say they shouldn't have a place here as long as it's clear what they are - sometimes it's easy; just look for a surname or a Z in the name . (& of course the name will change every six months too)

Point 4 on my list excludes pure restaurants but not those that allow you to wander in and just buy a drink without restriction, again they should have a place here but clearly defined as what they are.

We have dozens of bars on the site - mostly without reviews - because that sort of place doesn't seem to appeal to the core reviewers; due to our average age I guess. For a good example of this check out the Fleet St / Slater St / Wood St / Bold St area of Liverpool City Centre probably centred on this one.

I think Conrad has said before we shouldn't get too hung up on the Pubs bit of Pubs Galore.

[hondo]

I think Conrad has said before we shouldn't get too hung up on the Pubs bit of Pubs Galore.

[ROBCamra]

I think Conrad has said before we shouldn't get too hung up on the Pubs bit of Pubs Galore.

Or on candles and OB.

[oldboots]

Or on candles and OB.

there are limits, very definite limits, and candles, tea lights and associated dross are well on the far side of them

Ban 'em all I say!

[arwkrite]

Talking of tea lights and candles there is a pub in my town which is covered in them. Supposedly cheaper than using electricity.

[Oggwyn Trench]

OB sums it up for me , if you can walk in off the street and buy a pint , be it in a traditional boozer , chavy lager barn or trendy winebar its OK on here , if to gain entry you need to be signed in or pay or need membership no .

If you start adding clubs where do you stop , the local Sikh Temple has a bar would anyone want that on here

[NickDavies]

If you start adding clubs where do you stop , the local Sikh Temple has a bar would anyone want that on here

Probably not, as Sikhism forbids alcohol. Pity really, as Sikh temples must provide sustenance to all comers of any faith or none.

[Oggwyn Trench]

Probably not, as Sikhism forbids alcohol. Pity really, as Sikh temples must provide sustenance to all comers of any faith or none.

Not 100% if the new purpose built temple has one , but the old one certainly did , serving Tetley Smooth and Carlsberg , the place was a bit like a small leisure centre with a Gym , function room(for hire , maybe thats why they had a bar) as well as the main prayer rooms .

[Soup Dragon]

there are limits, very definite limits, and candles, tea lights and associated dross are well on the far side of them

Ban 'em all I say!

Darn right OB, as well as chopped wood next to gas fires and bloomin' vases and abstract sculpturey stuff. Ban smiling and Christmas too.

One handpull (aka handpump), selling Bathams MILD - all you need.

http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/63885/ I did review our local Temple!

[General Staal]

Ah Soupy! Batham's Mild, nice as it is, is not enough. How about Wye Valley Butty Bach? Or Beowulf Beorma? Or Two Towers Jewellery Porter? Banks's Mild is also a very nice pint. Even Batham's Bitter or Enville Ale? And Milton Brewery's Mammon, very strong, but very tasty. Black Dog Rhatas - amazing!

I'd say a pub needs at least four real ale hand pulls, two different pale beers and two different dark beers.

But not Purity...Oh no, nothing by Purity...