Jug-and-bottle

[Farway]

Because kids were not allowed in the bars they were places of mystery to me..

Ah yes, left outside in the cold with a bottle of ginger beer and if lucky a bag of crisps, I remember it well

[RogerB]

I am currently reading a book recommended to me Rex_Rattus called Back To The Local by Maurice Gorham written originally just before the war but updated shortly afterwards. It is basically a guide to drinking in London pubs and in it he describes the functions and purposes of the various sections that pubs were divided up into in those days including a small chapter on the Jug & Bottle bar.

One element of the J&B that I hadn't thought about was the secrecy factor. In those days pubs were more class driven and it was almost a social disgrace for some of the higher echelons of society to be seen stooping so low as to visit a pub. As the B&J bar was separately partitioned, it allowed people to sneak in unnoticed and top up with bottles of beer (that would often be wrapped in plain paper) and depart without being seen by the rest of the pub's clientelle.

[Alesonly]

I remember the Pubs in Ponders End my dad used too drink in during the early 60s One was called the Grapes and the other The Railway Tavern both had separate off licences and both had outside Toilets.
The Off licence on the Railway was in a small landing on the right hand side with just a hatch leading into the Public bar behind the Bar. Too the left of this hatch was a womans only Room with No bar and too get a drink they would have used the same hatch.
The one in the Grapes was a small Passage between the Public & Saloon Bars.
Sadly both Pubs were Demolished in the late sixty's when they built the Flats Maisonettes and redevelop the area a new Pub was built called the Hand & Hind a Ind Coope house which was absolute crap even back then that since has also long gone.

[hondo]

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