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    Wittenden's recent mention of Frank Ballie's Beer Drinkers Companion and the 88 breweries sent me scurrying for my copy to check out who the 88 breweries were and thinking about what happened to them was interesting, the 88 didn't include the “Big Six” who were very much still with us in 1972.
    Some of Frank's comments in his introduction are quite interesting too in the light of later developments, he complains about a lack of information about beer in pubs, “...it would be helpful to know the gravity of the beer...” reminding me that we never spoke about ABV in those days just Original Gravity or OG, apart the fact that ABV is now an almost obligatory statement. He also has a word about tasters, “the occasional landlord has been known to offer a sip of his draught and keg beers to a stranger before he makes the vital decision – a splendid act of public relations which should not be necessary” (on the basis that a proper description would be sufficient). He ends the introduction “this book has been compiled, and it is dedicated to the many beer drinkers who would like to find, know about and drink some of the wonderful beers still left to us before it is too late.”

    For the curious here's Frank's list of 88 breweries plus the Big Six, and what happened to them (I think), the 35 still going are in bold, feel free to add to it or correct any mistakes;

    Adnams
    Ann St (Channel Islands) - closed
    J Arkell (Swindon)
    LC Arkell Donnington Brewery
    (now owned by one of the Swindon family)
    G Bateman
    Daniel Batham

    Beard – sold to King & Barnes (also gone)
    Boddingtons – fell to Whitbread
    Border – bought and closed by Marstons
    Brains
    Brakspear – brand sold to Marstons, brewery sold for development
    Matthew Brown - sold to Scottish & Newcastle
    Buckleys – bought by Crown (ex South Wales Clubs) now merged with Brains
    Burt (IOW) – closed but a similar named micro brewery company now exists
    Burtonwood – no cask ale
    Camerons
    Carlisle State Management Scheme sold to Jennings, Theakstons (brewery only), Greenall, and Courage
    Castletown (IOM) - closed
    Cook (Halstead Essex) - closed
    Darley – closed by Vaux
    Davenports – closed by Greenall Whitley
    Devenish - closed
    Dudgeon – renamed Belhaven, bought by Greene King
    Eldridge Pope – Closed, partly merged with Burtonwood, became pubco
    Elgood
    Everards
    Felinfoel
    Fullers

    Gales – bought by Fullers
    Gibbs Mew - closed
    Grey (Chelmsford) – sold
    Greenall Whitley – became a pubco then sold its pubs to S&N now it's basically De Vere Hotels
    Greene King
    Guernsey Brewery - closed
    Hall & Woodhouse
    Hardy & Hanson – closed by Greene King
    Hartleys – bought by Robinsons & closed, the brewery is used as a depot.
    Harvey
    Higson – closed by Whitbread, Cains brew in the old brewery.
    Holdens
    J Holt

    Home – bought by S&N
    Hook Norton
    T Hoskins - closed
    Hull - closed
    Hydes
    Jennings – bought by Marstons
    JPS (Brierley Hill) – closed was this known as Simpkiss?
    King & Barnes – bought and closed by Hall & Woodhouse
    J W Lees
    Maclay - closed
    McMullen
    Mansfield – bought by Marstons via W&D
    Marstons
    Melbourn (Stamford) – closed 1974 reopened 1994, now owned by Sam Smith
    Mitchells of Lancaster – Bought by Thwaites
    Morland – bought and closed by Greene King
    Morrells – closed
    Northern Clubs Federation – sold to S&N
    Okell (IOM)
    Oldham – sold to Boddingtons and closed
    Paines - closed
    Palmer
    Randalls (Jersey) – closed? Now St Saviour?
    Randalls (Guernsey)
    Ridley – closed by Greene King
    Robinsons
    Ruddles – sold to Watneys then Grolsch then who knows, ending up with Greene King
    St Austell
    Selby (Middlesbrough) – closed
    Shepherd Neame
    Shipstones – closed by Greenall Whitley
    Samuel Smith
    South Wales Clubs – became Crown, then Crown-Buckley, now merged with Brains
    Timothy Taylor
    Theakston
    – sold to Matthew Brown, then taken over by S&N, then bought back by the Theakston family.
    Thwaites
    Tollemache & Cobbold – a tale of woe then bought by Ridleys then closed by Greene King
    Truman – merged with Watney Mann (Grand Metropolitan Ltd) and closed
    Vaux – closed, brewery demolished, pubs dispersed
    Wadworth
    Ward (Sheffield) Closed by Vaux
    Wells – merged with Youngs
    Wolverhampton & Dudley – absorbed by Marstons
    Workington – bought by Matthew Brown who were bought by S&N
    Yates and Jackson – closed
    Yorkshire Clubs – closed
    Youngs – merged with Wells
    There are also a couple of subsiduary breweries: Greene King in Biggleswade and Thomas Ushers in Edinburgh (part of Vaux).

    He also mentions five working home brew houses, all are still with us;

    All Nations
    Blue Anchor
    Mrs Pardoes Old Swan
    Three Tuns
    Traquair House – bottles only
    The Britannia Inn in Loughborough had just closed.

    Finally the Big Six plus Guinness

    Allied (Ind Coope, Ansells, Tetley) - part of InBev-AB
    Bass Charrington - part of Coors
    Courage - breweries went to S&N as ScotCo, pubs eventually to Enterprise, Punch etc via Inntrepreneur
    (Guinness)
    Scottish & Newcastle – part of Heinekin
    Watney Mann - dismembered
    Whitbread – now a leisure company (Premier Inns, Costa Coffee, Beefeater, Brewers Fayre etc)
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    A real trip down memory lane. Of those that have disappeared, I certainly remember enjoying beers from Burtonwood (when it was cask) Hartleys, Mitchells and Vaux over the years. Yorkshire Clubs was a new one on me - could you tell me a little more about them?
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    I think St Austall Should be in bold, unless the current brewery is a "phoenixed" version of the previous incarnation.

    Amazing to see how much consolidation has occurred, yet beers still survive even though they are brewed no where near where they once were, too many!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleandhearty View Post
    A real trip down memory lane. Of those that have disappeared, I certainly remember enjoying beers from Burtonwood (when it was cask) Hartleys, Mitchells and Vaux over the years. Yorkshire Clubs was a new one on me - could you tell me a little more about them?
    Yorkshire Clubs Brewery was based at Huntington on the outskirts of York, and run on similar lines to tne Nortern Clubs brewery, which I think took it over and closed it down. My heavily annotated copy of Baillie indicates that I had tried at least some of their beers, probably at one of the early Great British Beer Fests, though I cant really claim to remember them, unfortunately. Frank said the bitters were "all well-flavoured with a high hopping rate".

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    Good work ob,brought back happy memories.To answer one of your queries the JPS in Brierley Hill does indeed refer to the J P Simpkiss brewery,I used to drink in the brewery tap and enjoy their fine ales,usually on a crawl that included Batham's Bull and Bladder and Doris Pardoe's.Closed in 85 i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittenden View Post
    Yorkshire Clubs Brewery was based at Huntington on the outskirts of York.....Frank said the bitters were "all well-flavoured with a high hopping rate".
    Thanks for that. They sounded like my sort of beers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewguru View Post
    I think St Austall Should be in bold, unless the current brewery is a "phoenixed" version of the previous incarnation.

    Amazing to see how much consolidation has occurred, yet beers still survive even though they are brewed no where near where they once were, too many!
    Indeed St Austell should be in bold and now is, yet another senior moment I fear. Don't get me started on beers brewed away from their original brewery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucking Fastard View Post
    Good work ob,brought back happy memories.To answer one of your queries the JPS in Brierley Hill does indeed refer to the J P Simpkiss brewery,I used to drink in the brewery tap and enjoy their fine ales,usually on a crawl that included Batham's Bull and Bladder and Doris Pardoe's.Closed in 85 i think.
    I thought so, thanks BF, I didn't think it was anything to do with fags:. What a superb pub crawl - I've done two out of the three on a one night pub crawl.

    Quote Originally Posted by aleandhearty View Post
    A real trip down memory lane. Of those that have disappeared, I certainly remember enjoying beers from Burtonwood (when it was cask) Hartleys, Mitchells and Vaux over the years. Yorkshire Clubs was a new one on me - could you tell me a little more about them?
    A new one on me too until I looked in the book. In common with the other clubs breweries the York Clubs Brewery was started after WW1 by a club who thought the brewers were ripping them off (1924), as the name suggests this one was formed by the York branch of the CIU. They originally rented a defunct brewery (R Cattle of Pocklington) , eventually building their new brewery at Huntington in 1933, I must go and see if there's anything left one day soon. They amalgamated with the Leeds & District Clubs Brewery and changed the name to Yorkshire Clubs Brewery in 1939. The trading area was all over Yorkshire except the Cleveland area, plus bits of Lancs, Derbys, Notts and Lincs, Frank says supplies have now (1972) commenced to the Midlands. In addition to the 6X, 4X and light bitter, Wittenden described they did a dark MILD, best MILD and four bottled beers. They were taken over by the Northern Clubs Federation Brewery Ltd in 1973.

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    CAMRA's 1975 'Beer in London' - probably the first London real ale guide ever done, lists the following:

    Bass Charrington
    Brakspear (in three pubs)
    Courage
    Fuller
    Greene King (in just two pubs)
    Ind Coope (but real ale in "only a few houses")
    Marston (one pub)
    McMullen
    Ruddle
    Sam Smith ("about half a dozen pubs")
    Shepherd Neame
    Theakston (two pubs)
    Whitbread
    Young

    That was it, that was the choice in London in those days. Even then Martons and GK had ambitions. There's probably more choice in a small market town now than there was in a conurbation of seven million 35 years ago. The difference is that now you get much the same choice in the next market town you arrive in, and the one after that. Then, you got whatever the local hooch was, and if you didn't like it you could have Guinness. There's much to be said either way. It would be strange but somehow wonderful now to arrive in a strange town and find a whole range of new beers to try; and CAMRA's LocAle inititiave is doing something to keep up that tradition. But the fact that you can get something you like just about anywhere is a vast improvment on days gone by. I say just about anywhere: to find that the only pub in the remote village you're staying in has been gastrified and that the one handpump in use has a London bleedin Pride clip on it does sap the will to live; back to the Guinness.

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    Strange no mention of the Wem Ales Brewery (also known as Shrewsbury and Wem), founded 1870 closed by Greenalls 1988 , it was the major Shropshire brewer for years after the Wrekin Brewery closed , it was bloody awfull though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oggwyn Trench View Post
    Strange no mention of the Wem Ales Brewery (also known as Shrewsbury and Wem), founded 1870 closed by Greenalls 1988 , it was the major Shropshire brewer for years after the Wrekin Brewery closed , it was bloody awfull though
    Frank Ballie doesn't list it, maybe he just lumped it with Greenalls although he splits Greene King in Biggleswade out from the Bury brewery entry. I know it was still brewing in 1980 although GW bought it in 1951

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