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    Default Lets Design a Pub Sign!

    I get the impression a few of the regular posters on here (as well as their obvious passion for all things 'Pub-Related') also have an interest in The History of Railways! I also detect a few are from The West Country...Oooh Arrrr!
    Well.....I have to come up with a design for The Railway Inn at Sandford in Somerset (which has just been bought by Thatchers the Cider Brewers) and as I'm not very well informed on 'Rail-History' wondered if any of our more learned posters would have any info on Train type, numbers, colours destination names on front etc.
    All I know is there used to be a railway line between Cheddar and Yatton which passed through the Sandford & Banwell station transporting strawberries ( Known as The Strawberry Line). This line has now disappeared and is made into a foot and cycling path which part of it runs through the Thatchers orchard.
    I'm thinking of an image of an old steam train hurtling through the apple orchard but obviously want everything to be factual and historically correct
    Any input advice or links gratefully accepted .

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    Hi Youngie

    when were you thinking of setting the picture. Its a bit out of my area, but i think it would have been GWR, rather than Souther Railways up until 1948. The GWR was an early railway ( a lot came into being after the re-orgs of 1923, LMS etc). so if you want to be authentic, you need to have an idea of the year that you want first of all - if you are talking 1860s, i think it may have been pre-GWR days - which i am sure i can find out for you if you want

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    Thanks for the interest Historian

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    "The station was opened as Sandford with the broad gauge line to Cheddar in August 1869 as a single-platform station. The railway was extended to Wells in 1870, converted to standard gauge in the mid-1870s and then linked up to the East Somerset Railway to provide through services from Yatton to Witham in 1878. All the railways involved were absorbed into the Great Western Railway in the 1870s."
    He knows his stuff!

    To be fair I don't think the year is that vital as long as the train at some point passed through Sandford!!...I'd be more interested in the style/colouring/ aesthetic beauty of the Steam Engine itself...something to make a good picture.
    What period was the Golden age would you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngie View Post
    Thanks for the interest Historian



    He knows his stuff!

    To be fair I don't think the year is that vital as long as the train at some point passed through Sandford!!...I'd be more interested in the style/colouring/ aesthetic beauty of the Steam Engine itself...something to make a good picture.
    What period was the Golden age would you say?
    Railway mania was in the 1840's - too early!

    Play safe and go with GWR, rather than one of the smaller companies.

    I think the zenith of railway travel was prior to WWI, but i may be wrong - I am sort of a jack of all history, master of none!

    I would look for something between those dates!

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    The original designer of the PG web site and forums is a nice chap called Brian. He is a bit of a trainspotter (I have tried not to hold it against him), I will try and get his feedback on this as he may well have some interesting input.

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    Hi Youngie

    http://www.nrm.org.uk/collections/photos.asp

    I would look for several photographs that you could work off - and if i were looking for railway pics, i would look at two places - first the National Railway Museum, York - i have pasted the link above, as a generic authority. The other option would be local based. We hold photos of the railways around Walsall, so you need to contact the Somerset County Record Office and ask their advice on their holdings and those of any local history centre's, or private collections they know about. If i could draw - that's what i would do, if you want to be authentic

    You could always just paint a strawberry, or jar of hartley's jam!

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    I've been having a look around the East Somerset Railway site (http://www.eastsomersetrailway.com/p...ow=Locomotives). They seem to have a number of steam engines but having read through the history of each of them as far as I can tell none were actually used on that line!

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    Hi Folks,

    I couldnt help notice that there seems to be a lot of banter about railways appearing in this thread. Perhaps we should have a pocket railway history section in the new forum that Conrad has created, (Your Services). As Historian is already aware I worked at Thornaby MPD as an Apprentice in the early 70's and have led a double life, so to speak, getting paid on the big Railway and not getting paid on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway since 1968, so if you add up all the hours I've done since 1968 I should have about 80 years service in by now. I took the attached picture while I was at work. I consider myself quite lucky to have these things going past my window most days throughout the summer. Anyone guess where it was taken?

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    Hmmmmmm

    I am trying to remember where i have seen signal gantries like that; Leicester used to in my day, but i am guessing its by you, somewhere?, so i would say York, but i would think that is electonic signalling, so i will go for Scarborough - as its just down the road

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    Hi, Historian,

    Perhaps that was too easy. Scarborough is right.

    Incidentally Scarborough is the biggest railway station in North Yorkshire with five working Platforms. (York Doesn't count since its in The City of York). The entire station is a listed building and the gantry you can see is a listed structure.

    I've mentioned this to point out to Conrad that I dont just do things about Whitby, and websites!

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