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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    You are alluding to Metadata which will be embedded in a photo taken on a digital device, obviously a scan will not include this, sadly loading onto Pubs Galore appears to strip the Metadata. It may remain somewhere in the database, Dave would be able to say (probably).
    Hmm. That's a bit of a bugger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpadam View Post
    As previously mentioned, this is what I try to do, but just adding a 'Date taken' field to be entered when uploading a photograph (even if only approximate in the case of older pictures) would seem to be the easiest answer?
    That would appear to be the sensible solution, without trying to get too fancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealAleRobUK View Post
    That would appear to be the sensible solution, without trying to get too fancy.
    Depends if it gets used, it would need to be mandatory to stand any chance of being useful, remember some people can't even get a photo the right way up or indeed attached to the correct pub.


    It doesn't need to happen, it may not be important to some people that a visitor looking at a photo labelled May2020 would assume it was taken close to that date, a quick look at other photos of the same pub may reveal to the viewer that it was an incorrect date label, their reaction is likely to be "what a bunch of useless numpties, can't even get the photos in the right order, must be a crap site"
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Depends if it gets used, it would need to be mandatory to stand any chance of being useful, remember some people can't even get a photo the right way up or indeed attached to the correct pub.
    If there was a mandatory "date taken" field when uploading a photo it would at least mean that some can be correct, whereas at the moment no historical photos can be.

    However at the moment there is no prompt for confirmation once a photo is uploaded, so it would require the photo upload process to be redesigned which could be deemed to be too much work for too little reward.

    I do think there would be some value in adding a preview of the photo prior to submission, maybe even include a basic zoom/rotate/crop tool for those who don't have the skill or inclination to edit beforehand. But again, that's not going to be a quick easy thing to add to the site so I can't see it being high on the to-do list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    You are alluding to Metadata which will be embedded in a photo taken on a digital device, obviously a scan will not include this, sadly loading onto Pubs Galore appears to strip the Metadata. It may remain somewhere in the database, Dave would be able to say (probably).
    We decided from the start it would be best to strip that data out from the publicly accessible photos as you may not want people to know exactly when you were somewhere or what kind of device you have for example.

    However I do still have some access and in theory can still get hold of meta data, it is often not as reliable as you might hope though.

    What I've been thinking is maybe when you upload a photo there is another button that user can decide to click that assigns the photo to the day they took it rather than the day they uploaded it.

    I can't promise that feature any time soon however I'll have a word with Adam Bell and see if he'd mind me updating some the dates of his photos retrospectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealAleRobUK View Post
    However at the moment there is no prompt for confirmation once a photo is uploaded, so it would require the photo upload process to be redesigned which could be deemed to be too much work for too little reward.

    I do think there would be some value in adding a preview of the photo prior to submission, maybe even include a basic zoom/rotate/crop tool for those who don't have the skill or inclination to edit beforehand. But again, that's not going to be a quick easy thing to add to the site so I can't see it being high on the to-do list.
    I need to write a new photo upload process for another site at some point to allow some pre-upload editing, if that goes well I may be able to push some of those features back into the PG upload process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpadam View Post
    NB - If photographs are renamed, resized, rotated, cropped or otherwise modified in any way (e.g. contrast or colour balance) the date / time metadata will probably be lost so it would appear very difficult to automatically extract the required information in many cases?
    Photo editing software does often change the metadata, there is usually a field called 'DateTimeOriginal' which shouldn't get changed, however some software removes all of the metadata.

    If there are any users who'd be happy having the 'date photo taken' shown on the site for their photos I'll have a play about with the data and see what I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave M View Post

    If there are any users who'd be happy having the 'date photo taken' shown on the site for their photos I'll have a play about with the data and see what I have.
    I wouldn't have a problem with that, though from albeit a somewhat shakey memory, I think most if not all my photos have been current to upload dates within two or three weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave M View Post
    Photo editing software does often change the metadata, there is usually a field called 'DateTimeOriginal' which shouldn't get changed, however some software removes all of the metadata.

    If there are any users who'd be happy having the 'date photo taken' shown on the site for their photos I'll have a play about with the data and see what I have.
    I don’t mind, I definitely have a few photos on here that were uploaded long after the fact.

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    Photoshop has a tool to allow text to be written on images. I sometimes write the date that the photo was taken, onto the image.

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