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Spritzer Swallower
running a cellar without a coller or not?
Hi there
Do most cellars have collers, can they substain the optimum tempratre of 10-14C with out one
What would happen if the beer was pumped out of the cask and kegs at room temprature?
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Originally Posted by
flatcap
Hi there
Do most cellars have collers, can they substain the optimum tempratre of 10-14C with out one
What would happen if the beer was pumped out of the cask and kegs at room temprature?
1. yes they (should) have coolers and no you cannot sustain a constant temperature without cooling equipment of some sort.
2. It wouldn't taste good (depending on your room temperature), that is one reason why bars have cool cellars or cool rooms and often a "python*" between cellar and bar to maintain the correct temperature which can be much less than 10C depending on the beer and local preferences.
*https://www.cellartrainingcourse.co.uk/page26.html
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Spritzer Swallower
Originally Posted by
oldboots
1. yes they (should) have coolers and no you cannot sustain a constant temperature without cooling equipment of some sort.
2. It wouldn't taste good (depending on your room temperature), that is one reason why bars have cool cellars or cool rooms and often a "python*" between cellar and bar to maintain the correct temperature which can be much less than 10C depending on the beer and local preferences.
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https://www.cellartrainingcourse.co.uk/page26.html
Thanks for the link
I am going to have a look at a pub in Wigan tommorrow. not a lot going for it and a lot of the stuff was robbed (sold on) by the last land lady who done a runner!
https://www.findmypub.com/properties/view/24951
Local knowledge tells me she was advised just before she left that the cellar cooling system was about to pack up
Do you know of any sites that have diagrams of cellars, that show a diagram of all the equipment used in them?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by
flatcap
You've got to ask why did the previous licensee do a runner? Rent too high? Business too slow?
There are two more pubs very close by (Douglas Bank opposite and Prince of Wales on next corner), and the Springfield, Bird i'th'Hand and Brickmakers are not far away and very popular. You would probably get busy when football and rugby league restart, but that's only about 40 days a year tops. Quite a tough one for your first pub, I'd say.
Last edited by sheffield hatter; 24-05-2020 at 21:06.
Reason: corrected pub name to Brickmakers
Come On You Hatters!
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Spritzer Swallower
Originally Posted by
sheffield hatter
You've got to ask why did the previous licensee do a runner?
Quite a tough one for your first pub, I'd say.
She was a con woman by the sound of things; sold all the fixtures and fittings off that did not belong to hear. Basiclly the pubs falling apart (I think the foundations are leaning to one side) and the land lord will not spend a penny on repairs and leaves it to the tenants
So you think its a tough one because there are to many pubs in such a small area?
Last edited by flatcap; 22-05-2020 at 12:56.
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It used to be quite a well-to-do part of town, because coal mining was very big in this area, which is why some of the pubs are quite big and why there are so many of them, but since the coal mining industry went into decline there's not so much money in people's pockets. So if they want a drink and can get it a lot cheaper at a supermarket, they stop going into the pubs. There are three pubs within spitting distance, and the one you're interested in has had no money put into it by the landlord but plenty of gear taken out by the departing licensee. So you'd have to put quite a lot of money into it before you can even open the door to the punters. And then you have to compete with the other two pubs: why would their customers come to you rather than the two pubs they're already drinking in? Like I said before, for your first go at running a pub, it's a tough one.
Come On You Hatters!
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