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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyduck View Post
    If there is any bright side to the current situation, if it had happened 10 or even 5 years ago we would have been restricted to a few specialist online outlets or a supermarket diet of the likes of bottled Pride, Hobgoblin and Gloom Bar. The Old school may not agree (I'm getting old but didn't go to school much), thank God for Craft beer and tins.
    I'm pretty old school, but have decided for the duration to generally order craft. My reasoning being that bottled cask isn't really as good as cask in a pub. I'm enjoying a case of 3 different tins from a new to me brewery-Good Things from over the other side of Tunbridge Wells. Initial impressions are favourable, and I'll repeat the process in due course, dependant on supplies.
    In another thread,Old Boots cites the 5litre mini casks, which are goodish, but I'm the only beer drinker indoors now, and I wouldn't/shouldn't get through one without it spoiling in warmish weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittenden View Post
    I'm pretty old school, but have decided for the duration to generally order craft. My reasoning being that bottled cask isn't really as good as cask in a pub. I'm enjoying a case of 3 different tins from a new to me brewery-Good Things from over the other side of Tunbridge Wells. Initial impressions are favourable, and I'll repeat the process in due course, dependant on supplies.
    In another thread,Old Boots cites the 5litre mini casks, which are goodish, but I'm the only beer drinker indoors now, and I wouldn't/shouldn't get through one without it spoiling in warmish weather.
    It's great to see someone with old school preferences giving it a go but my favourite Kent brewery Kent is not old school. I'm someone who sits on the fence as I still like some old school stuff but also really enjoy a lot of so-called craft. I draw the line completely with Sours and to a lesser extent unfined cask.
    As far as I'm concerned newer breweries have overtaken most of the few surviving independent brewers and a few CAMRA Stalinists are blocking that out. In case anyone didn't know R Protz was a very left wing journalist until he got involved with CAMRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    made from amazingly thin metal, I just step lightly onto an empty can with my size nines and it's flat ready for the recycling collection, takes up very little space which is good as we, as a family, are getting through a few cans at present.
    That's why I've got rid of my can crusher, my mate uses his hands I use my left Reebok from a height, can goes into denial. My friend described the below as brutal but it did take about 3 minutes. So I can see his point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    It's great to see someone with old school preferences giving it a go but my favourite Kent brewery Kent is not old school. I'm someone who sits on the fence as I still like some old school stuff but also really enjoy a lot of so-called craft. I draw the line completely with Sours and to a lesser extent unfined cask.
    As far as I'm concerned newer breweries have overtaken most of the few surviving independent brewers and a few CAMRA Stalinists are blocking that out. In case anyone didn't know R Protz was a very left wing journalist until he got involved with CAMRA.
    Unfined cask doesn't trouble me at all , my favourite brewery of last year , Vibrant Forest do imo some fantastic stuff even if it does look like Orange juice, I am aware though that unfined beer does not agree with some people physically. Sours I wouldn't have gone near five years ago, but am now getting into some on occasion. In defence of Roger Protz, we're not mates or anything like that but I have been out drinking with him on a couple of occasions and he visits my local two or three times a year, he's a decent and interesting chap in my book, I know he champions old school beer but he is quite open to new stuff as well ,
    as far as politics go I have no interest in them whatsoever in any walk of life let alone the beer world, which is why that although I'm a CAMRA member I don't get to involved at branch level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyduck View Post
    Unfined cask doesn't trouble me at all , my favourite brewery of last year , Vibrant Forest do imo some fantastic stuff even if it does look like Orange juice, I am aware though that unfined beer does not agree with some people physically. Sours I wouldn't have gone near five years ago, but am now getting into some on occasion. In defence of Roger Protz, we're not mates or anything like that but I have been out drinking with him on a couple of occasions and he visits my local two or three times a year, he's a decent and interesting chap in my book, I know he champions old school beer but he is quite open to new stuff as well ,
    as far as politics go I have no interest in them whatsoever in any walk of life let alone the beer world, which is why that although I'm a CAMRA member I don't get to involved at branch level.
    The problem with unfined cask is that it can be used to mask poorly kept beer plus the fact that it looks bad. Re Protz and politics I was using the term Stalinist more in relation to being oblivious of change rather than his journalist past. ?he founder of micropubs claims that CAMRA have dome nothing to support them and I agree but there are CAMRA people that attend their beer festivals but claim not to like micropubs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    but there are CAMRA people that attend their beer festivals but claim not to like micropubs!
    I would suggest such people are idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    favourite Kent brewery Kent is not old school. I draw the line completely with Sours and to a lesser extent unfined cask.
    Funnily enough I haven't really thought of Kent as Craft.Most of their beers I've enjoyed, but I drew the line at ordering a French Kiss from the bearded barman the other month. I'm unwilling to invest in Sours, and am not that keen on fruit additions.I'll probably be drummed off this site, but I can't stand Titanic Plum Porter,or Kissingate Cherry MILD.
    Don't know him, but Mr Protz is OK-he follows me on that Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyduck View Post
    I would suggest such people are idiots.
    People in Camra idiots - surely not

    With so many Camra members also posting here maybe we need a new lockdown thread "Camra - Good or Evil" ?
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    Covid19! is one by name
    It comes from the East
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcfczuluarmy View Post
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    Nice one, Jon. Like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    As far as I'm concerned newer breweries have overtaken most of the few surviving independent brewers and a few CAMRA Stalinists are blocking that out. In case anyone didn't know R Protz was a very left wing journalist until he got involved with CAMRA.
    And your point is?

    I assume you think you have set up the second sentence by calling the conservatives in Camra "Stalinists". Surely the revolutionaries or insurgents in the modern beer market are the new brewers, with their revolutionary beers and their hipster supporters. Possibly you could equate them with Trotskyists or Bolsheviks; but the "Stalinists" in this analogy, those Camra supporters of traditional brewers (who would equate with the kulaks or higher-income peasant farmers in the Russian system in the time of Stalin), are surely rooting for the wrong side. And where does a former left wing journalist fit in? Assuming he hasn't already been sent to a gulag...
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