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    Unhappy Why are most of new pubs/bars that open crap?

    Liverpool has seen a number of new pubs/bars opening in the last 12 months and the City Centre has seen the most. They are all, without exception, crap. And it hasn't got much better in Merseyside as a whole. Is it just here or are things just as bad everywhere else?

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    Depends on the type of pub you like.All the new ones I have been to in London tend to have a modern stripped out style with mostly craft keg and little or no cask beer.Suits me on both those things as I don't like traditional pubs that much and this has been the worst year I can remember for dud cask beer.Hate the prices of keg beer but if they do thirds I am okay with that.New pubs have to cater for the younger market so its going to be an ongoing problem really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
    Liverpool has seen a number of new pubs/bars opening in the last 12 months and the City Centre has seen the most. They are all, without exception, crap. And it hasn't got much better in Merseyside as a whole. Is it just here or are things just as bad everywhere else?
    Apart from micropubs and some brewery taps there are virtually no new pubs aimed at cask ale drinkers. Wetherspoons cater for cask drinkers but also food punters and families. The best "new" pubs are ones taken over by individuals or reliable chains like Black Country Ales. Greene King have turned some of their outlets into reasonable places whereas Marston seem to have completely lost the plot.

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    In the case of most new places opening in Liverpool, they're very much aimed at people that don't like pubs (or my idea of pubs, anyway). And that's an ever growing market. Seems to be as simple as that. Outside of the big cities, I like a lot of the new bars and pubs that are opening and doing good real ale. There are loads of them popping up near me around the Wigan and Preston area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainypool View Post
    ... they're very much aimed at people that don't like pubs (or my idea of pubs, anyway). And that's an ever growing market.
    See my review of this pub in Bridgnorth.
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    The Boak and Bailey blog on 30 th nov had a good article about the Swan with Two Necks in Bristol and the gentrification of this back street pub.Worth a read.

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