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    Default PG Top 100 rated pubs

    I noticed the discussion about trying to produce a PG top 100 pubs in the 'Yet another list' thread and it reminded me of some stuff I'd done a while back for weighting ratings.

    So here you go, a top 100 based on the weighted ratings of PG reviewers.

    https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/pubs/top-rated/

    It is undoubtedly skewed in all sorts of ways, but it might prove to be an interesting guide for good pubs that haven't been reviewed much.

    One of the skews means that it is generally harder for pubs that have featured on a PG crawl (and have lots of ratings) to appear on the list, I need to work out how to tweak the algorithm without pushing it too far in their favour instead.

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    Interesting,Dave! Not quite sure how it works-it's been a long day-especially as I and others do not rate pubs numerically. 8/100-must get out more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wittenden View Post
    especially as I and others do not rate pubs numerically.
    Yes unfortunately in this list it is only taking into account those who have rated numerically so it is lacking the opinions of several reviewers.

    I do have an idea (well actually Conrad had the idea) for improving the concept of ratings but I can't quite work out how to do it.

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    I've a few questions.

    What is a weighted rating?
    Is there a lower limit to the number of reviews?
    What happens if I press the add button?
    There are some it says I haven't reviewed when I have. Bitter-Suite Four Candles Alehouse

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    Well, that's next year's challenge sorted then (after the Somerset 2019 Ale Trail that is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    I've a few questions.

    What is a weighted rating?
    It makes the ratings more uniform, so if someone only ever rates pubs a 10 then it will consider them more like a 5, effectively ignoring them.

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    Is there a lower limit to the number of reviews?
    At the moment it is set to only show if there are ratings from 2 or more reviewers who have rated (I think) at least 50 pubs.

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    What happens if I press the add button?
    It will just record that you have at some point visited the pub.

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    There are some it says I haven't reviewed when I have.
    Ah damn, I ran a one off process a few years ago to say that any pubs reviewed had been visited. I thought it was an ongoing thing but clearly not.

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    Thanks for the answers.

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    It will just record that you have at some point visited the pub.
    I don't like pressing unknown buttons in case it starts a nuclear war.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dave M View Post

    Ah damn, I ran a one off process a few years ago to say that any pubs reviewed had been visited. I thought it was an ongoing thing but clearly not.
    That makes sense as the ones I had noticed are fairly recent.

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    That is brilliant, I really like that. A proper list based on genuine reviewers rather than the opinions of some food/wine snob or whoever is doing the particular list in question. And presumably it will also get updated as ratings change. A very useful reference. Is there going to be a link added to the front page, I can see me checking this whenever I’m off to a new area?

    Interesting that for some reason I hadn’t rated No.3, although I generally always do. A bit annoying too that I only photographed no. 71 a few weeks ago, and would have made the effort to stop if I’d known it was a “top 100” and had planned on going in no. 88 last week but abandoned the idea due to the very inclement weather. Again, would have made more of an effort if I’d known.
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    Am I missing something? By my reckoning the Great Western has an average rating of 9.2 or 9.3. The Duke Of Cambridge in Willenhall has two 9s making 9.0.

    Edit: Similarly I can't see how the Albion in Conwy has missed out. Is it cos it's Welsh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackthorn View Post
    That is brilliant, I really like that. A proper list based on genuine reviewers rather than the opinions of some food/wine snob or whoever is doing the particular list in question.
    I wouldn't set too much store by it, many are only reviewed by a couple of people, sometimes long ago.

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