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    Default Have I missed a CAMRA sea change?

    Having just got my 2023 GBG I noticed that at least one pub - The Twelve Taps - sells craft ales but no real ale. CAMRA's website continues to promote real ale but not craft.

    It's a pretty good pub, but it doesn't seem to fit the criteria. Or am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETA View Post
    Having just got my 2023 GBG I noticed that at least one pub - The Twelve Taps - sells craft ales but no real ale. CAMRA's website continues to promote real ale but not craft.

    It's a pretty good pub, but it doesn't seem to fit the criteria. Or am I missing something?
    If you click on the WhatPub link you'll see that - unusually - all of the craft ales are served from key kegs, which means all the beer is live and has no contact with the carbon dioxide that is used to serve it. My main gripe with Camra's "hey, some of this keg beer is pretty good" policy is that it is not normally possible to tell which is key keg (good) and which is not (not). It has been suggested to me that I should ask, but I reckon it would be better if it was made clear by the use of, I don't know, a hand pump or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    If you click on the WhatPub link you'll see that - unusually - all of the craft ales are served from key kegs, which means all the beer is live and has no contact with the carbon dioxide that is used to serve it. My main gripe with Camra's "hey, some of this keg beer is pretty good" policy is that it is not normally possible to tell which is key keg (good) and which is not (not). It has been suggested to me that I should ask, but I reckon it would be better if it was made clear by the use of, I don't know, a hand pump or something.
    Personally I don't care whether it's key keg or not or whether the beer is live or not, I go by taste and overall experience, of course it's down to preference and cask ale has always been my base camp, but one has to explore. To see some CAMRAs "Discord" Forum denigrating keg having never tasted it in the last forty years or so is quite jurassic. I do sometimes wonder why I am and remain a CAMRA member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyduck View Post
    Personally I don't care whether it's key keg or not or whether the beer is live or not, I go by taste and overall experience, of course it's down to preference and cask ale has always been my base camp, but one has to explore.
    I often explore keg options, and my overall experience is that it tends to be too cool, too fizzy and too expensive. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    I often explore keg options, and my overall experience is that it tends to be too cool, too fizzy and too expensive. But that's just me.
    Of course, but my overall point being there is little difference in taste, mouthfeel, beer experience between keg & key keg, only beer nerds would disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyduck View Post
    Of course, but my overall point being there is little difference in taste, mouthfeel, beer experience between keg & key keg, only beer nerds would disagree.
    Well, I would agree with you to a certain extent - the problem for me with key keg is that it's generally kept colder than I would like, and of course the carbon dioxide is not vented so the beer has a residual fizziness.

    But the original question was about Camera policy and the GBG, not about your or my personal preferences!

    Just to be clear, are you saying I am a beer nerd or that I'm not a beer nerd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    Well, I would agree with you to a certain extent - the problem for me with key keg is that it's generally kept colder than I would like, and of course the carbon dioxide is not vented so the beer has a residual fizziness.

    But the original question was about Camera policy and the GBG, not about your or my personal preferences!

    Just to be clear, are you saying I am a beer nerd or that I'm not a beer nerd?
    I think I'm more beer nerd than you're ever likely to be Will and where I'm trying to go with this is actually CAMRAs short-sightedness in the modern world of beer. However I am currently in the Nags Head in Reading so I could be spouting a load of b******s, I suspect not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    But that's just me.
    No. It's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mobyduck View Post
    However I am currently in the Nags Head in Reading so I could be spouting a load of b******s, I suspect not.
    Is the beer there still too cold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tris39 View Post
    No. It's not.



    Is the beer there still too cold?
    No, not at all, cask or keg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    My main gripe with Camra's "hey, some of this keg beer is pretty good" policy is that it is not normally possible to tell which is key keg (good) and which is not (not).
    You answered my question. I tend to by-pass keg, key or not, and go to the can These seen to be less fizzy than keg (usually.) If drinking indoors,I can regulate the temperature.Aren't key kegs single use?
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