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    Quote Originally Posted by bcfczuluarmy View Post
    Cotteridge Wines didn't have a tap room when I used to buy beer underage from there years ago.
    But it does now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by london calling View Post
    Offies oops sorry bottle shops are popping up all over London but not all have a licence to drink on premises.There is one in Kingston called 5000 Beers (they only have about a 100 who can only sell you 100mm tasters 4 for £4.50 but have heard that they are now selling larger measures if you buy a plate of cheese.I have not added it to this site.
    I can think of three of these places in my manor.
    400ml is only just over 2/3 of a pint which makes it a rip off in my book unless they are way ahead of the Park Bench Duty limit. This is something that needs to be discussed for the site and my opinion is that an off licence that doesn't allow on sale consumption of all their products remains an off licence and should not be eligible for the site. Many micropubs do varying stocks of bottles but I don't recall going to any where some can't be consumed on the premises. Having to buy a plate of cheese makes it a restaurant or café.
    When I last went to the Rising Sun in Berkhampsted the landlord had the right hump about the Red Squirrel taps because he reckoned they were only paying shop rates rather than pub rates as they claimed to be just "tasting rooms".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDavies View Post
    More likely Australian. Tends to be "liquor store" in the US.
    Those Antipodeans have some nerve, they come over here, work in our pubs, even open a rubbish chain called Walkabout, thrash us at Test Cricket & Rugby and then expect us to call our off licences bottle shops!!! Quite frankly it makes my blood boil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    Those Antipodeans have some nerve, they come over here, work in our pubs, even open a rubbish chain called Walkabout, thrash us at Test Cricket & Rugby and then expect us to call our off licences bottle shops!!! Quite frankly it makes my blood boil.
    Nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    I can think of three of these places in my manor.
    400ml is only just over 2/3 of a pint which makes it a rip off in my book unless they are way ahead of the Park Bench Duty limit. This is something that needs to be discussed for the site and my opinion is that an off licence that doesn't allow on sale consumption of all their products remains an off licence and should not be eligible for the site. Many micropubs do varying stocks of bottles but I don't recall going to any where some can't be consumed on the premises. Having to buy a plate of cheese makes it a restaurant or café.
    When I last went to the Rising Sun in Berkhampsted the landlord had the right hump about the Red Squirrel taps because he reckoned they were only paying shop rates rather than pub rates as they claimed to be just "tasting rooms".
    This Taprooms for brewers is getting so popular in London that they are taking millions of pounds a year that would have gone to pubs.I think there will be a backlash against them like there is in America where the bars are stopping selling beers from local brewers as they are competing with the brewers Taproom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by london calling View Post
    This Taprooms for brewers is getting so popular in London that they are taking millions of pounds a year that would have gone to pubs.I think there will be a backlash against them like there is in America where the bars are stopping selling beers from local brewers as they are competing with the brewers Taproom.
    Going out of Mr Angry mode, I've only once seen a Wild Card beer in a local pub where it was virtually undrinkable and a total rip off. I came across what you're saying when I went to the Bald Buzzard in Leighton Buzzard and the owner told me that they don't bother with Leighton Buzzard beers any more since they opened a tap room. Surely most of them are only open at weekends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDavies View Post
    More likely Australian. Tends to be "liquor store" in the US.
    I first heard of "bottle shops" in South Africa, this would be mid 1960s

    Seems south of equator / colonial term then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    Going out of Mr Angry mode, I've only once seen a Wild Card beer in a local pub where it was virtually undrinkable and a total rip off. I came across what you're saying when I went to the Bald Buzzard in Leighton Buzzard and the owner told me that they don't bother with Leighton Buzzard beers any more since they opened a tap room. Surely most of them are only open at weekends?
    They are a bit like Micropubs with erratic hrs but Brick brewery open 6 days a week-Mondo 5 days -London beer lab 5 days .Might depend on which borough you are in.

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    I have always thought it was a British term.In America they are allowed to sell draught beer to take away but the container is called a growler. That name has not really caught on in Britain as much as the shops try.Bottle Shops refer to taking draught beer away in a bottle rather than buying a bottle from the Offie.I could possibly be taking utter bollocks but that my theory and i am sticking to it.

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