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    Much more detail here

    A fair of amount of cat among the pigeons type stuff, some will leave if some of it is adopted, some will leave if some of it's not. Should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Should be fun.
    As should some of the regional meetings beforehand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Much more detail here

    A fair of amount of cat among the pigeons type stuff, some will leave if some of it is adopted, some will leave if some of it's not. Should be fun.
    I can't leave as I'm a life member! I would probably have not renewed my subscription over the missing What's Brewing issue which strikes me as being a breach of contract.
    I find some of the arguments on the extreme sides of the craft vs cask argument totally ridiculous as is the very strict definition of "Real" cider from the cider brigade. I've never been to a CAMRA AGM as I've never had enough smelling salts available to keep me awake.

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    I'm bored of it already. However, the website is massively skewed as to be a piece of propaganda. Which isn't the best way to sway votes, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinno View Post
    ... the website is massively skewed as to be a piece of propaganda. Which isn't the best way to sway votes, IMHO.
    Couldn't agree more. The answers to FAQs are all just a summary of NE policy positions. Reading them, I keep on expecting to see "on the other hand", but it somehow never appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinno View Post
    I'm bored of it already. However, the website is massively skewed as to be a piece of propaganda. Which isn't the best way to sway votes, IMHO.
    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    Couldn't agree more. The answers to FAQs are all just a summary of NE policy positions. Reading them, I keep on expecting to see "on the other hand", but it somehow never appears.
    Surely the "on the other hand" or alternative is the status quo? If the Resolutions don't get the 70% yes vote, and it's not just open to the votes of the beards in the room but every member who can be arsed, then the current situation stays in place for good or ill. It also depends on what motions the beards in the room are able to put up against the Resolutions and if the NE decide to over-rule them like they did with the Resolution motion.

    Plenty of nonsense about it all on the Discourse site, about 250 posts on two threads so far, makes a change from sexism I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Surely the "on the other hand" or alternative is the status quo? If the Resolutions don't get the 70% yes vote, and it's not just open to the votes of the beards in the room but every member who can be arsed, then the current situation stays in place for good or ill.
    Quite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldboots View Post
    Surely the "on the other hand" or alternative is the status quo? If the Resolutions don't get the 70% yes vote, and it's not just open to the votes of the beards in the room but every member who can be arsed, then the current situation stays in place for good or ill.
    Sure, I get that. My point was that the "answers" to the FAQs were simply putting forward the argument for supporting the changes. Where's the argument for not making any changes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield hatter View Post
    Sure, I get that. My point was that the "answers" to the FAQs were simply putting forward the argument for supporting the changes. Where's the argument for not making any changes?

    There are a few points on Discourse but as the NE is firmly behind the changes don't expect anything official from that quarter.

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