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    Default What's the source of Olde English and Welsh Pub names?

    Came across this link trying to connect astrology with old English pub names :-

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    A bit too Russell Grant for me but has anyone got a better explanation?

    Preferably, the pubs have to be 1700's onwards.


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    I've had a look at this and there seems to be a blurring together of Astronomy which is a valid science and Astrology which is a complete load of cobblers only kept alive by the need for printed newspapers and magazines to fill the odd half or whole page. The constellations were a way by which ancient astronomers described the night sky long before they had any understanding of where the stars actually were. The fake science of Astrology hijacked twelve of these for its own purposes. I suspect that names like the Bull and the Lamb have more to do with farming than the night sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqualung View Post
    I suspect that names like the Bull and the Lamb have more to do with farming than the night sky.
    It works the other way, too. The constellations were named by people who were close to the soil, so were given names like Plough, Bull, Ram, etc.
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    What's the story behind dolphin pubs in the Pennines and Derby?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_Arthur View Post
    What's the story behind dolphin pubs in the Pennines and Derby?

    And I remember one off Holborn. It lives in the sea so could be a weird sort of chuckling fish and therefore linked to Pisces???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_Arthur View Post
    What's the story behind dolphin pubs in the Pennines and Derby?

    There are a number of reasons why pubs are called 'Dolphin'. Pubs near the coast have traditionally used the name as dolphins were considered by seamen to be friendly creatures, so publicans equated this friendly animal with the friendly hospitality on offer in their pub. The navy also named many ships 'Dolphin', which in turn led to more pubs adopting the name in honour of these ships. For pubs further from the sea, the explanation is likely to be linked to the presence of a dolphin in the coat of arms of a local family or industry or else it is probably a reference to the Battle of Waterloo, as a number of pubs used the name 'Dolphin' (a corruption of the french word 'Dauphin') to mark Wellington's victory.

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    What's the story behind the eagle and child - Aquila and Antinous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pubsignman View Post
    There are a number of reasons why pubs are called 'Dolphin'. Pubs near the coast have traditionally used the name as dolphins were considered by seamen to be friendly creatures, so publicans equated this friendly animal with the friendly hospitality on offer in their pub. The navy also named many ships 'Dolphin', which in turn led to more pubs adopting the name in honour of these ships. For pubs further from the sea, the explanation is likely to be linked to the presence of a dolphin in the coat of arms of a local family or industry or else it is probably a reference to the Battle of Waterloo, as a number of pubs used the name 'Dolphin' (a corruption of the french word 'Dauphin') to mark Wellington's victory.
    Very interesting,Brighton & Hove Albion's nickname used to be The Dolphins which may also be a coastal reference.
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