I am sure we have discussed this elsewhere though I couldn't find it and I know we struggle to define craft beer, and that some among us couldn't care on that subject ,but the general definition of beers across the board seems rather confused. there are many examples but what brought it to mind recently was reading through Old Boots thread and the results of the SIBA South East Area Beer Competition here. In the Best Bitter category we have Hammerpot Australian Pale and Whitstable East India Pale Ale, I haven't tried either of these but unless their names are misleading ,since when are pale ales best bitters? And in the Standard Bitters I have tried these and although I like this style of beer ,citrusy and hoppy, and I know some do not, I don't regard them as standard bitters. Any thoughts?