In one of my local pubs I ordered a Kirkstall Three Swords and the barmaid scuttled off round the corner and came back with a pint. On tasting it I knew it wasn't Kirkstall and a quick look at the pumps showed Rudgate Jorvik Blonde on the pump next to the 3 Swords and that's what I'd a Rudgate glass .....and I got charged for Kirkstall at three bob more.