Help with photos please

[sheffield hatter]

Sitting at home on a rainy day off this one has grabbed my attention. I have spent far too long than is healthy trying to solve the second picture, there is just a chance, just a chance it could be Rose & Crown Inn which would require a serious makeover, chimney reduction, window alterations, new boundary walls and conservatory but the proportions work as does the power line above. Site next door would have been redeveloped too but looks on Alan's photo to be feasible. Unlikely but could be it.

What a vivid imagination you have!

The building next door looks like another pub (or ex-pub), and it's got to have been built before the second world war, I reckon, therefore should have featured in Al's photo.

[Al 10000]

Sitting at home on a rainy day off this one has grabbed my attention. I have spent far too long than is healthy trying to solve the second picture, there is just a chance, just a chance it could be Rose & Crown Inn which would require a serious makeover, chimney reduction, window alterations, new boundary walls and conservatory but the proportions work as does the power line above. Site next door would have been redeveloped too but looks on Alan's photo to be feasible. Unlikely but could be it.

Thanks for looking into this for me Maldenman,

I think the Rose and Crown you found might be this one,i did the pub on the 2 September 1988,photo taken same day

both pubs were done around 1988/1989 but has you can see they are different and were different brewerys one Hansons the other Holdens.

Cheers Alan

[Delboy20]

I was looking more at the back ground of hills and nothing else and how that fits in with the location on a map than the newer houses directly around it.

Name and general building do clinch it, the setting made me doubt it.

It is the Vic in Dudley Wood. I live about 5 minutes walk from it. There was a bowling green on the left and next to that was Cradley Heath Speedway track. That went some years ago and was replaced by the new housing estate. There is a gulley on the right between the pub and a church. Obviously the extension was added, they started doing meals etc..

It actually closed a couple of weeks ago but only for a few days. There is now a new gaffer in.

If that pic was 1988 that was the year I left school and i was using it now and then ( only for soft drinks of course !) I actually rented a house just up the road for a few years in the nineties.

BTW Alan do you have any other pics taken at the same time / in the same area ?? My proper "local" was the Anchor just up the road and i would like to see some pics of it back then.

Still thinking about the other pic, its not ringing any bells yet !

[Al 10000]

BTW Alan do you have any other pics taken at the same time / in the same area ?? My proper "local" was the Anchor just up the road and i would like to see some pics of it back then.

Still thinking about the other pic, its not ringing any bells yet !

Thanks for that Delboy,

I did hundreds of pubs in the Black Country in the late 80s,i went for the Hansons, Holdens, Bathams and Banks's pubs,i did take photo's of most pubs i did back then.

Regarding your area i did loads of pubs around threre,there are lots of pubs i did that i need to look into because they are not on the site yet.

I did do a pub called the Anchor in Cradley Heath on the 15 October 1988.

This is a photo of the Anchor taken on the same day visited



The Rose and Crown is still bugging me,it was definatly a Hansons house that i did in 1988.

Cheerrs Alan

[bcfczuluarmy]

I think the R&C is bugging everyone. I've checked the Dudley Metropolitan Council website and no application to demolish a R&C since 1990 and I've even asked my dad and he doesn't recognise it. What order were your photos taken in? E.G Do the negatives help narrow down the possible location of where it could be? Unlikely a pub in that neck of the woods would change it's name but it's certainly proving hard to find.

[Delboy20]

Thanks for looking into this for me Maldenman,

I think the Rose and Crown you found might be this one,i did the pub on the 2 September 1988,photo taken same day

both pubs were done around 1988/1989 but has you can see they are different and were different brewerys one Hansons the other Holdens.

Cheers Alan

That Rose and Crown is definately the Holdens one in Brierley Hill. You can just see the edge of the Bridge Inn in your photo. It closed some years ago and is now a restaurant

I am still drawing a blank trying to identify the pub. Did you keep photos in the order you took them ? If I knew what you took before and after I might be able to work it out !

[Delboy20]

Thanks for that Delboy,

I did hundreds of pubs in the Black Country in the late 80s,i went for the Hansons, Holdens, Bathams and Banks's pubs,i did take photo's of most pubs i did back then.

Regarding your area i did loads of pubs around threre,there are lots of pubs i did that i need to look into because they are not on the site yet.

I did do a pub called the Anchor in Cradley Heath on the 15 October 1988.

This is a photo of the Anchor taken on the same day visited



The Rose and Crown is still bugging me,it was definatly a Hansons house that i did in 1988.

Cheerrs Alan

That is the Anchor I remember. There are a number of pubs that are long gone from my area that i have thought of putting on the site. Just to record them if nothing else. I would guess you have photos of most of them so it now seems even more worthwhile.

I will have a go at listing a few and you can add the photos to them. If you need any help with anymore from round here I would be glad to take a look.

To be honest I am enjoying looking back !!

Do you have pics of the Castle or the Cooksey in Old Hill. Or the Victoria. Or Sams. Or the Why Not. Or the Vine the list goes on and on .....

[Soup Dragon]

Hi Al,

I think i have got your Rose and Crown!

The pub has gone now, but the building in the background remains.

Now i am back at work, i had a quick look through the old Staffs directories. I looked for a R&C near Dudley way, which had a school nearby. One came up that looked promising - the R&C, at 114 Bromley, Pensnett - junction with Dell Rd (see map and drag the gold bloke to that part of the road). It also appears it became a Hanson's house in 1934. A house is there today, but the church appears in the background still - would value other opinions. .

Soup.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...ed=0CAcQ_AUoAQ

[oldboots]

I'm convinced, gable end of the church is distinctive, nice use of internal evidence BTW.

[sheffield hatter]

I think i have got your Rose and Crown!

Excellent research!

Have you thought of taking it up full time?