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It's kinda "damned if you do, damned if you don't" with these things. But someone should have read the adjudication by the Portman Group's panel before commenting, as it is a model of rational...

I agree there are some horrors there. But there are a few where the innuendo or offence is only in the mind of the beholder, or in this case the person that added them to the website.

For example,...

You betcha!

That was pretty rude at the time and it's certainly good to be reminded of it.

Apologies for seeming to want to have the last word. Also known as being happy to continue the discussion. Can anyone...

I'm pretty sure hopeless is not the right word. But you don't see many banners on pubs saying "last 16 in Pub of the year 2023", etc.

I agreed that impressions vary. And your experience and impression of a pub are just as valid as my own.

Even if I were stood next to you at the bar, I couldn't experience the pub exactly the...

Whereas I found it difficult to navigate, with a bottleneck at the bar counter, which is squeezed for room, and people always trying to get from the front to the back, or vice versa, past the queue -...

I wasn't impressed with the beer on either of the occasions I've visited. I guess it must have been better on several hundred days in between.

Certainly is!

No, the Rutland is not often on my radar. But Retired Martin had some of that beer.

Yes indeed. I think this is the one. Though it took a bit of rummaging around to find it.

Well, he may have been pompous, but at least he has listened to feedback, and in all likelihood noticed the effect of lower footfall and probably a higher wage bill on his bottom line and drawn the...

Isn't that a bit off-topic and unnecessary?

Thanks for that. Very useful.

Indeed. The sale of 1,000 pubs for £800 million reduces the debt per pub from £577k to £514k, which is a negligible difference. Can you imagine running a pub and trying to pay the interest on that...

If 1,000 of them are expected to raise £800m, my guess would be the majority of them are not traditional pubs. More likely to be converted shops (Woolworths, for example) like this one in...

Wow! I didn't know that. I guess it's as much to do with the pub's location as anything. It's on a housing estate quite a long way from the centre of Leeds.

Tripadvisor reviewer: “Two pints of cider, a bag of scratching [sic], a small bag of nuts cost nearly £16, up about £4 from last month. Sad, but we will no longer be using this pub.”

Pub owner:...

Yes, I think I've come across that chain somewhere else and made a mental note to steer clear.


Obviously not a very long-lasting mental note, as I can't remember where it was...

No, I believe the accepted technique is to carry forward your ticks from previous years, and it's also acceptable to spot possible new entries and do a pre-emptive tick. (On the other hand, if you...

Sad news. I see that *someone* has already marked the pub as closed, though the pub's operator is quoted in the piece as saying they'll be selling the remaining beer at silly prices on Friday, 12th...

I went to the Admiral Vernon with one of my Luton Town mates in February 2009, before a game that we lost 2-1 in the season when we were relegated from the Football League. He was into heritage pubs...

Thanks for posting this. Yes, you really must get yourself up to Preston.


I've been to six of the 11 pubs listed.

Whitelock's Ale House in Leeds (upgraded from Grade II to Grade II*)
The...

A great beer, brewed by a great brewery. Nothing can possibly go wrong.

That's a little harsh, Jim. It's a pub, when all's said and done. Sad to see any of them close.