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I agree with Al 11000 about the Hackney Hopster. There is absolutely no reason at all to keg a beer like that, or any other beers that work perfectly well on cask. There is a real problem with the...

I passed a shop in Loughton today proclaiming that it sold "Kraft beers and Organic food".
No cheesy jokes please!!

I can think of no reason why a beer like HH should even be distributed in keg form. It's a classic low ABV cooking beer from one of the better new London breweries. I've consumed it on many occasions...

I wasn't aware that I was "having a go" at anyone here, nor did I actually slag off OBB, just stated that it would never be classed as a "craft beer". If I do get to the Princess Louise I will have a...

I wasn't going to say this but now you have raised it I don't think that reviews from more than two years ago prove anything about the current real ale situation.
The only Sam Smith's pub I want to...

Thanks for that, I had a suspicion that the Lyceum Tavern may be a contender. I don't know the Red Lion in Soho at all.

In the second list I would have discounted them all apart from the Fitzrovia...

While on this diversion from the original thread, does anyone know what the first Sam Smith's pub to open in London was?
There are plenty that I can definitely say are not, but don't have an answer....

I didn't actually try and define "craft". My point was that Doom Bore and OBB are bog standard old school beers whereas some of the recent Adnam's beers are clearly not.




I agree the "Craft"...

I'm detecting a North / South divide here!!

I thought this brewery was notorious for being very secretive about what they do. Therefore, how could anyone know what their ingredients are let alone the quality of them?

Maybe they are trying to give it "craft" credentials by only selling it on keg in several of their London outlets.

I've given up in trying to define what "Craft Beer"actually is but would just say that Doom Bore or Sam Smith's OBB certainly are not and some Adnam's products like Ghost Ship and their USA...

I rather doubt that they do it on keg! I picked it out from the GBG list of Castle Rock beers that might possibly have the increasingly meaningless "Craft" tag applied to it. If it's rammed with New...

I have to agree with you about the price, I no longer even look at the keykeg fonts in the William. When everything was £3.30 I would quite happily give the stronger ones a go, especially the Black...

To me "Craft" beer includes cask. "Craft" beer is something out of the mainstream or "Left Field", not just keykeg. An early example of this would be Summer Lightning back in the 80's. It's old hat...

I ended up at the King William IV on Friday, the brewery tap for Brodie's Brewery who is generally thought of as a "Craft" brewer, although i prefer to think of him as "experimental". If I had just...

Have you been spying on me??????

This new tag was obviously dreamed up by some marketing moron in Burton who knows as much about Southern England geography as I do about Smartphones, QR Codes and celebrity gossip. Well done...

That is a complete disgrace, it's still listed on their website and the latest Spoons list as 5.6%. No doubt they will claim that it is after testing public opinion (how come they never ask me? I...

Keykeg beer doesn't have to be a rip-off. If this is a genuine American import then carting it across the pond will whack the price up.

I could have had a pint of Brodie's Big Mofo Stout (10.5%)...

I didn't realise there was a low ABV version of it, it's regularily on sale in the William but is around 3.7%. Personally I never bother with any of the sours.

Is it a beer? Perhaps this...

A very sensible and well put post there Moby. I'm sure if you stumble across the Portobello American Pale Ale you will find it to your liking.

Today in the William they had the Hoxton Special IPA...

This is one of the big problems in that you just cannot tell! I've had ones in the William that come up gassy like a proper keg or bottled beer and it's simple for me in that I never bother with that...

I do know that you realise that you can get beer for £2.50-£3.00 (or less) in probably all the Spoons outside of the Central London area as well as the King William IV in Leyton (and I'm sure a few...

The 22% one is brewed with a special yeast and usually only appears at one of the two annual beer festivals. It is sold in third of a pint glasses and is more like a sweet sherry than a beer,...