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Blurring the definition of Craft Beer further, Sambrooks Wandle makes it onto this list
The trouble with this list is that it is all bottles. I haven't had bottled beer in a pub since Young's pubs were worth a visit and we came up with the idea of Winter Warmer with a bottle of Old Nick in as "the thinking man's brown and mild".
I've had six of them on cask and all I can say about Wandle is that it's better than Junction but shoudn't be on this list. Sambrooks do now do a good proper mild called Archer so there's hope for them yet. I suspect Wandle was just an imitation of Young's Ordinary, but as it came out before the London micro explosion it probably got a better reception than it would do today.
Really? I think the opposite. I didn't find Wandle with any flavour whatsoever in 3 attempts, right down there with gkipa, so sacked it. Junction, whilst only something I'd go for in adversity, at least displayed some vague malty character. I remain amazed that Sambrooks managed to inveigle themselves into so many outlets, and can only think they profited by pubs wanting to jump on the 'Locale' bandwaggon.
Being first out of the traps just ahead of the curve works wonders - despite their beer being, IMHO, fairly pedestrian they've established themselves as a 'brand'. So yer average licensee thinks "I want a London beer that isn't Fullers". The immediate answer is then Sambrooks cos they've seen it elsewhere regularly. Plus, there's still a large market for bog-standard brown beer.
It may be that Wandle is the sort of beer that goes down best as the first one of the day.
To me the Junction is far too sweet as to a lesser degree is their porter. Their mild is a genuine one and well worth a go.
Many of the newer London breweries make vastly superior beers to Sambrooks, and there's a whole load I haven't even tried yet!
I have had 17 of these beers and have had 2 saisons from Partizan but not that version.All have been on cask or keg and the 2 missing are the Victorian stout and the Triple.
London's Best Irish Pubs (allegedly)
A bit out of date with the Harps Irish Landlady.
Are there any genuine Irish pubs in London? I've never been to Kilburn and Cricklewood pubs apart from the Spoons. That had Irish people in it but it doeesn't make it an Irish pub. The same goes for the Blythe Hill Tavern as far as I'm concerned.
The only proper Irish pub I can recall going to was this one over 40 years ago which I think was at number 7 Queensland Road not 13. It was a basic two bar Ind Coope pub with no real ale and the Saloon bar had traditional Irish music several nights a week and Sunday lunchtime. They used to play the Irish national anthem at closing time and everyone was expected to stand. I only knew it as the Favourite (sic) rather than the Volunteer.
Agreed, despite the former landlady's heritage it was (and still is I assume) billed and run as a shrine to real ale and cider.
I vaguely remember being dragged to some place near Piccadilly Circus years ago that was supposed to be an Irish pub but it certainly wasn't, it was a fake designed to attract the gullible tourists.
1. The Spaniards Inn, London - with my grandparents, must be about 50 years ago! (I did have a drink but obviously not an alcoholic one.)
7. The Skirrid Mountain Inn, Wales - not terribly impressed with this or the other Welsh entry.
9. The Drunken Duck Inn, Ambleside - more of a restaurant than a pub these days, unfortunately.
16. Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem, Nottingham - not so much a pub as a tourist attraction.
21. Crown Posada, Newcastle - the only one I've been to on this list that I would unhesitatingly revisit.
22. Groes Inn, Conwy - see Skirrid Inn above
Hoping to get to 17. Stein Inn, Isle of Skye later this year.
I did most pubs on Kilburn high road last year and quite a few of them seemed like genuine irish pubs,no real ale and grumpy service,the Royal Exchange at Paddington is another proper irish pub but with a more friendly atmosphere,i have done all but 2 on the list.
Revealed: The 16 best real ale pubs in Yorkshire
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorks...hire-1-7200672
Barnsley: Old No 7.
Bradford: Jacobs Beer House.
Doncaster: Corner Pin.
Halifax: Three Pigeons.
Harrogate: Harrogate Tap.
Mirfield: Flower Pot.
Huddersfield: Grove Inn. (Actually The Grove.)
Beverley: Chequers Micropub.
Keighley: Brown Cow.
Leeds: Kirkstall Bridge Inn.
Hawes: White Hart Country Inn.
Rotherham: Beehive. (Actually in Harthill which is part of Sheffield, going by postal districts, but I think it must come under Rotherham Camra.)
Pickering: Sun Inn.
Sheffield: Kelham Island Tavern.
Castleford: Junction.
York: Maltings.
I've done nine out of these 16. The usual problems arise when looking at lists like this one:
a) Hold on a minute, [insert name of pub here] isn't even the best pub in [insert name of town here], never mind one of the best in [insert name of county here].
b) It's clearly not a list of the best 16 pubs in Yorkshire, it's a list of geographically diverse pubs where you can be fairly sure of a good pint. A good example here is the White Hart in Hawes: there are at least 16 pubs in Sheffield that are "better" than this one, but of course the list "has to" include one in the heart of the Yorkshire Dales.
...and: the Camra map embedded in the article actually lists 17 pubs (though there are 16 pub markers, the Grove and the Flower Pot having one between them), the one not mentioned in the article being:
Middlesbrough: Dr Phil's Real Ale House
but then , of course, everyone knows that Middlesbrough's not in Yorkshire, is it. Discuss....
The list is actually a list of the Pubs of the Year of each CAMRA branch in Yorkshire apart from the one or two that didn't make it onto this list, there are other versions including one for the UK that is even more incomplete - journalism at its finest I suppose.
RE:Middlesbrough: The North Riding extends to the southern bank of the Tees, so when someone kicked it off and built some iron works there it was in Yorkshire and sadly remains so in spite of the "foughts" of some illiterate footy fans (I thought https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/questio...2151734AAlGE3z was from Private Eye's bullitin board column); the efforts of Heath's Government or the desires of the fine people of Guisborough, Stokesley and beyond. I wont bore you with stuff about unitary councils, the border is the Tees.
End of, great stuff guys - Bogbrush
Craft beer in the Torygraph:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...rs-to-try.html
I've only tried two-Proper Job and the Coniston confection.
As I tick beers I have had ten out of ten.Adnams -jester 5.2 is the dubious one but I did have Adnams -jester 4.8 at the recent Wetherspoon beer fest.Probably the same beer but I didn't notice it was an ipa. Coniston -bluebird bitter seems a strange choice for a list of craft beers
They seem to be all bottled beers so it doesn't really interest me. However, I was surprised to see that Proper Job is 5.5% in bottled form so will pick up 4 for six quid next time I go to Tesco. I had it on cask once but it was in poor condition so can't really comment.
The point about Proper Job is that the cask is 4.5% whereas in a bottle at 5.5% it is something I would be happy to try from the supermarket with a Multibuy option, probably next Monday!
If I were to come across it on cask with no better options I would gladly give it another go.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...s.html?image=9 just 3/10 visited and no York Tap :rolleyes:
Ticked off six of those namely Paddington,Kings Cross,Sheffield,Dewsbury,Stalybridge and Sowerby Bridge (and agree with a&h as ,where is the York Tap ? )
Ive done 6 on the list,
Mad Bishop & Bear,Parcel Yard,Sheffield Tap,Staylybridge Buffet bar,Great Western and West Riding Refreshment Rooms.
Not sure why the York Tap is missing and Mad Bishop and Bear is on the list.
None for me,though I have been to the York Tap. Usually use the Harp and the Rake as station taps,though I don't travel much by rail.
Been to seven in recent times, plus one long ago (Great Western, Exeter), looked through the windows of another because it was closed at the time Sheffield Tap), leaving just the Railway Arms at Downham Market that has escaped me completely so far...
I'm on nil. I too have looked through the windows of the Sheffield Tap wondering why it was shut. Lack of time stopped me from visiting the Jubilee Rooms.
How about the café at Snowdon summit station? It's been rebuilt but the old place used to sell cider out of a plastic barrel during the limited times it was open.
" food writer Adrian Bailey named his choice of the 12 best pubs"
http://londonist.com/2015/08/what-ha...-1967-part-one
http://londonist.com/2015/08/what-ha...-1967-part-two