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30-03-2021, 19:20
rpadam

Visited Pubs Button

Just spotted the 'Visited Pubs' button in the Post Town lists - another new feature?

DAVE - Is is possible to get the date from the (most recent) review, and although this may not be 100% accurate, it could be edited but still easier than starting from scratch?
31-03-2021, 19:06
Dave M

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Originally Posted by rpadam

Just spotted the 'Visited Pubs' button in the Post Town lists - another new feature?

DAVE - Is is possible to get the date from the (most recent) review, and although this may not be 100% accurate, it could be edited but still easier than starting from scratch?

It has been there for a few years, the whole pub visit concept was something I created in 2016 but never fully padded out. It was part of the 2016 Quinno pub name challenge.

I envisaged being able to record that you had visited a pub and if you really wanted to being able to put in the exact (or rough) date.

So initially if you click that you have visited it puts up the message "I have visited this pub at some point". It also gives that message where I have based it on a review, so I've changed that so it now says the date that is based on. (It may not be based on most recent review, in fact probably oldest I'm afraid)

I guess the important questions for anyone reading this are:-
Do you want to record that you have visited a pub? I think it is useful to have a record even if you haven't reviewed it.
Do you want to record a date (either exact or rough)? I can see how it could be useful, but not sure of a good interface to make it easy to do for historic records. Obviously I could add a 'check in' button for mobile version of site for recording as you go.
How would you feel about other users being able to see which pubs you've visited? I think it could be handy in that someone may not have reviewed somewhere you are thinking of visiting so you could then check with them if it is worth it. But privacy issues maybe?
31-03-2021, 19:44
Mobyduck

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Originally Posted by Dave M

It has been there for a few years, the whole pub visit concept was something I created in 2016 but never fully padded out. It was part of the 2016 Quinno pub name challenge.

I envisaged being able to record that you had visited a pub and if you really wanted to being able to put in the exact (or rough) date.

So initially if you click that you have visited it puts up the message "I have visited this pub at some point". It also gives that message where I have based it on a review, so I've changed that so it now says the date that is based on. (It may not be based on most recent review, in fact probably oldest I'm afraid)

I guess the important questions for anyone reading this are:-
Do you want to record that you have visited a pub? I think it is useful to have a record even if you haven't reviewed it.
Do you want to record a date (either exact or rough)? I can see how it could be useful, but not sure of a good interface to make it easy to do for historic records. Obviously I could add a 'check in' button for mobile version of site for recording as you go.
How would you feel about other users being able to see which pubs you've visited? I think it could be handy in that someone may not have reviewed somewhere you are thinking of visiting so you could then check with them if it is worth it. But privacy issues maybe?

No problem with any of the important questions, but where exactly is this button? I can't see one.
31-03-2021, 22:11
Quinno

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Originally Posted by Mobyduck

No problem with any of the important questions, but where exactly is this button? I can't see one.

Right hand side, under 'page tools'

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Originally Posted by Dave M

It has been there for a few years, the whole pub visit concept was something I created in 2016 but never fully padded out. It was part of the 2016 Quinno pub name challenge.

Good old name challenge, what fun that was! There's a few with a 0 next to them now, so I assume the pub I visited has since closed. Shame. Maybe I can try topping-up next year.
01-04-2021, 17:22
Tris39

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Originally Posted by Quinno

Right hand side, under 'page tools'

RHS of which page? Fiddling about, I can't see a link to 'page tools'. :confused:
01-04-2021, 18:17
ROBCamra

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Originally Posted by Tris39

RHS of which page? Fiddling about, I can't see a link to 'page tools'. :confused:

You need to be at "Town" level before it's visible.
01-04-2021, 18:35
Mobyduck

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Originally Posted by ROBCamra

You need to be at "Town" level before it's visible.

A dwarf thing?
01-04-2021, 18:47
ROBCamra

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Originally Posted by Mobyduck

A dwarf thing?

I don't think so.

Type in Rochdale on Search Site. Click on Rochdale under the displayed "Postal Districts Search Results".

Voila! A full list of the delights of the metropolis and, crucially a "Visited Pubs" button.

Other towns are available. :cheers:
01-04-2021, 18:54
Mobyduck

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Originally Posted by ROBCamra

I don't think so.

Type in Rochdale on Search Site. Click on Rochdale under the displayed "Postal Districts Search Results".

Voila! A full list of the delights of the metropolis and, crucially a "Visited Pubs" button.

Other towns are available. :cheers:

Nope, I don't get a button.
01-04-2021, 19:30
Delboy20

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Originally Posted by Mobyduck

Nope, I don't get a button.

On the right hand side of the screen where you can follow areas pubs there should be 3 buttons . Click the bottom one - visited pubs.
01-04-2021, 19:34
Mobyduck

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Originally Posted by Delboy20

On the right hand side of the screen where you can follow areas pubs there should be 3 buttons . Click the bottom one - visited pubs.

Oh yes, just put my reading glasses on. :rolleyes: :D
01-04-2021, 19:51
rpadam

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Originally Posted by Dave M

So initially if you click that you have visited it puts up the message "I have visited this pub at some point". It also gives that message where I have based it on a review, so I've changed that so it now says the date that is based on. (It may not be based on most recent review, in fact probably oldest I'm afraid)

Many thanks for making that tweak Dave.
02-04-2021, 17:06
Tris39

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Originally Posted by ROBCamra

You need to be at "Town" level before it's visible.

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Originally Posted by Delboy20

On the right hand side of the screen where you can follow areas pubs there should be 3 buttons . Click the bottom one - visited pubs.

Ah got it! Thx
02-04-2021, 17:37
sheffield hatter

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Originally Posted by Dave M

So initially if you click that you have visited it puts up the message "I have visited this pub at some point". It also gives that message where I have based it on a review, so I've changed that so it now says the date that is based on. (It may not be based on most recent review, in fact probably oldest I'm afraid)

Have you changed this again? I'm now seeing two different messages (taking Barnsley postal town as an example): the pubs I reviewed in 2017 to 2019 say "I visited this pub around 02/11/2017 (based on review)", but the pubs I reviewed in 2013 say "I have visited this pub at some point".

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Originally Posted by Dave M

I guess the important questions for anyone reading this are:-
Do you want to record that you have visited a pub? I think it is useful to have a record even if you haven't reviewed it.
Do you want to record a date (either exact or rough)? I can see how it could be useful, but not sure of a good interface to make it easy to do for historic records. Obviously I could add a 'check in' button for mobile version of site for recording as you go.
How would you feel about other users being able to see which pubs you've visited? I think it could be handy in that someone may not have reviewed somewhere you are thinking of visiting so you could then check with them if it is worth it. But privacy issues maybe?

Personally, I don't see this being very useful to me for two reasons. One, I'm not really fully into keeping records on a smart phone or an app, I'm more of a notebook-and-spreadsheets guy. Two, some of my uses of the Review field are to record historic information or trailing a new pub opening/changed pub reopening, and are not connected to my being anywhere nearby at the time. I can't see myself trawling through more than two thousand entries in postal towns throughout the UK to correct this.

However, I can see a 'check in' button for mobile users as being potentially useful, with a view to encouraging activity for new users. There would be no privacy issue as far as I'm concerned if this information was shared publicly, but I can see why others might not be so unbothered; perhaps a 'share' button as well?
03-04-2021, 00:04
Pangolin

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Originally Posted by Dave M

I guess the important questions for anyone reading this are:-
Do you want to record that you have visited a pub? I think it is useful to have a record even if you haven't reviewed it.
Do you want to record a date (either exact or rough)? I can see how it could be useful, but not sure of a good interface to make it easy to do for historic records. Obviously I could add a 'check in' button for mobile version of site for recording as you go.
How would you feel about other users being able to see which pubs you've visited? I think it could be handy in that someone may not have reviewed somewhere you are thinking of visiting so you could then check with them if it is worth it. But privacy issues maybe?

After some deliberation, I would find it useful, particularly as a reference tool when out and about without access to my paper records (well, they mostly pre-date electronics!). It would certainly take a bit of data entry but I reckon that would be worthwhile. One slight hesitancy - it looks as though it flags up a possible visit for contributions like photos, map corrections, weblinks etc. These are not necessarily an indication of a visit, whereas a review almost certainly is. It might be useful if there was some differentiation between a possible deduced visit and one I have entered myself.

I am undecided about the value of a date field, largely due to the impossibility of coping with repeat visits. No problem with others knowing I have been somewhere (but if I haven't reviewed it I probably can't remember much about it!!)
11-04-2021, 20:36
Dave M

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Originally Posted by Pangolin

it looks as though it flags up a possible visit for contributions like photos, map corrections, weblinks etc. These are not necessarily an indication of a visit, whereas a review almost certainly is. It might be useful if there was some differentiation between a possible deduced visit and one I have entered myself.

It should only be based on reviews, will look into that. You are quite right about differentiating confidence in visits, need to sort that out.
13-04-2021, 16:34
Pangolin

I have had a play with inserting some entries. not too bad (apart of course from coping with name changes, county boundaries etc etc) - the date select widget is more fiddley than typing the numbers in, but I guess gives more consistent format. Marginally annoying at not being able to edit date (or when it is guessing at a visit) but work-round of deleting and re-inserting is no real problem. The greater question is how to make best use of the output: it's Ok as a live reference tool; outputting on a map would be good; maybe a symbol/flag on the pub entry itself; being able to download lists in some way would be quite handy; a stats output would be interesting. Being tied to postal towns might be a bit limiting though - counties perhaps?