Corona Quiz 01

Beer, Classic Rock and Railways. 16 enthralling questions of no importance whatsoever with a mix of easy and difficukt but if you know the answers they are all easy!
I believe all of these questions can be unearthed with Google but how many can you answer off the top of your head? There is one question outside these categories.
If anyone else fancies setting a quiz then feel free! I'm a fan of the Chase and Eggheads but have the right hump with the BBC for dropping Eggheads in favour of that boring tall bloke from Pointless.
Apologies to younger viewers who will probably struggle with this.

1) Name the three independent Nottingham area breweries from early CAMRA days. I believe attempts have been made to resurrect all of them. (3 points)

2) Bearwood in Brum is notable for having a BCA and a reasonable GK pub close to each other. Which famous female songwriter, keyboard player and singer who is most fanous for being a member of a legendary rock band grew up in Bearwood?

3) What was a Dukedog?

4) Name the brewery that existed in early CAMRA days in the town of St Neots.

5) From where did the name of the 10cc album "Deceptive Bends" come?

6) What does the old Welsh nationalist slogan "Cofiwch Dryweryn" mean and refer to? (2 points)

7) What were the three Southern brewery names that pub giant Ind Coope (aka Allied breweries) resurrected in the 1980s? This was a scam as they had all stopped brewing but can you also name their locations? (6 points)

8) What is the major Welsh town that the Led Zeppelin house Bron Yr Aur overlooks?

9) What was the nickname given to the LNER and BR class A4 steam locomotives? The class included record breaking loco Mallard.

10) How many Batham's pubs currently exist?

11) Name the two major summits that Glasgow and Edinburgh bound WCML trains traverse.(2 poinrs)

12) The home depot of steam locomotives had a code that was attached to the front of the locomotive. What places did these codes represent? 81A, 1B, 50A, 60A, 89C? This was prior to 1963 when changes were made. (5 points)

13) Name the two defunct independent breweries from early CAMRA days that had a Bee in their trading logo. (2 points)

14) Which English city produced these groups, The Moody Blues, Black Sabbath and Duran Duran?

15) In the main, Mild wasn't produced by West of England brewers. What was the nickname applied to the low abv bitters they produced instead?

16) Name the defunct Salisbury brewery that produced a fine dark strong ale called Bishop's Tipple?

Without looking I reckon I know 8 and could make a stab at 3 more; the others I'm clueless about.

I know people who would know #12 off the top of their heads but I'm not one in spite of train spotting propensities (I don't know #9 either, now if it was Bullied's that would be different) and #6 is unlikely to be "Ourselves Alone".

I know 3 of the music based ones and I could take a guess at a few others but I accept your apology because I will struggle with it !

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Originally Posted by oldboots

Without looking I reckon I know 8 and could make a stab at 3 more; the others I'm clueless about.

I know people who would know #12 off the top of their heads but I'm not one in spite of train spotting propensities (I don't know #9 either, now if it was Bullied's that would be different) and #6 is unlikely to be "Ourselves Alone".

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It just goes to show that "if you know them they are easy". I'm going to add a bit to #9 which might make it easier. I can understand the other two being difficult!

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Originally Posted by Delboy20

I know 3 of the music based ones and I could take a guess at a few others but I accept your apology because I will struggle with it !

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If you can be bothered the use of Google is acceptable. It's not cheating!

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

If you can be bothered the use of Google is acceptable. It's not cheating!

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Thanks for prompting me to improve my general knowledge! Did a bit of Googling, not so that I could answer the questions, but to see if it would spark any interest. Without Google I was able to have a stab at just half a dozen or so. Interesting that a population of 2,235 qualifies as a major town in Wales! And that the original graffitist of Cofiwch Dryweryn got the initial letter of the second word wrong. Most of it unfortunately was too obscure to enable me to have an educated guess, and not interesting enough for me to want to find out (though I did look up Dukedog - found that it didn't seem any more interesting). Sorry.

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Originally Posted by sheffield hatter

And that the original graffitist of Cofiwch Dryweryn got the initial letter of the second word wrong.

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Have you not heard of mutation in Welsh? It's by far the most difficult aspect of Welsh and it does my head in!! The word for town in Welsh is Tre but you'll often see dre as part of a place name but it still means town. As a result we have Tremadoc (Madoc Town) and Hendre (Old Town).
In mid Wales and North away from the North Coast a population of 2,235 is regarded as an urban conurbation.

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

Have you not heard of mutation in Welsh?

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Yes, I've heard of it but apparently the guy who wrote it put a T where it should have mutated to a D! (It was later corrected to a D.)

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

16 enthralling questions of no importance whatsoever with a mix of easy and difficukt but if you know the answers they are all easy!

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Only 14). But Duran Duran took their name from a character in which film?

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Originally Posted by Tris39

Only 14). But Duran Duran took their name from a character in which film?

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Ditto. The film is Barbarella (and no I didn't look that up!)

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Originally Posted by Komakino

Ditto. The film is Barbarella (and no I didn't look that up!)

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I also knew that off the top of my head and the fact that Tony Blackburn famously called them "Durran Durran".

2) No idea but GK pub in Bearwood is aptly named The Bear Tavern.
9) A4 Pacific class locomotive.
11) Beatcock and Shap
14) Birmingham

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Originally Posted by bcfczuluarmy

11) Beatcock and Shap

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sounds like a dodgy pair of pox doctors :D,

This is the Night Mail crossing the Border,
Bringing the cheque and the postal order,

Letters for the rich, letters for the poor,
The shop at the corner, the girl next door.

Pulling up Beatcock, a steady climb:
The gradient's against her, but she's on time.

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Originally Posted by oldboots

sounds like a dodgy pair of pox doctors :D,

This is the Night Mail crossing the Border,
Bringing the cheque and the postal order,

Letters for the rich, letters for the poor,
The shop at the corner, the girl next door.

Pulling up Beatcock, a steady climb:
The gradient's against her, but she's on time.

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I can imagine a dominatrix called Miss Beatcock - not sure what that says about me...

About 6 or 7 without looking on beer & railways. Ashamed I struggled with the Welsh ones though i have lived there 10 years!
I will Google the rest to improve my general knowledge.

When are we getting the answers.I like general knowledge quizzes and used to be in a pub quiz group for about 3 years.Surprisingly enough we sometimes won against far better teams.Bit difficult this one but no googling for me.Beer is my specialist subject but still stumped.
1 Home ,Offilers ?
2 not many rock bands had a female.Christine Mcvie maybe
3 Paines
13 Birmingham
19 -Boys bitter maybe
20 Gibbs Mews
pathetic attempt but never mind
cheers

2. Christine McVie
4, Paines
5. An old road sign (no longer there) on the A 24 between Leatherhead & Dorking , I drive up and down there a fair bit.
13. Boddingtons, plus?
14. Brum
16. Gibbs Mew

difficult, all un-googled.
(think Johns got some of his numbers mixed up).

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Originally Posted by london calling

When are we getting the answers.I like general knowledge quizzes and used to be in a pub quiz group for about 3 years.Surprisingly enough we sometimes won against far better teams.Bit difficult this one but no googling for me.Beer is my specialist subject but still stumped.
1 Home ,Offilers ?
2 not many rock bands had a female.Christine Mcvie maybe
3 Paines
13 Birmingham
19 -Boys bitter maybe
20 Gibbs Mews
pathetic attempt but never mind
cheers

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I'll publish the answers when I think everyone who wants to has had a go. I'm surprised you didn't know the Nottingham & Ind Coope ones,
The A4 LNER class seems to be causing problems. Maybe it's just a London name, but as a schoolboy it's what they were called, I don't recall anyone ever calling them A4s,
I used to do a pub quiz. The most memorable win was when the late Mrs Aqualung managed to name all of the Waltons from that horrible TV show! Goodnight LC!

Ungoogled:

1. Hardy & Hansons, Shipstone, Home
(2. Christine McVie - Guess)
3. GWR locomotive
4. Paines
7. Benskins, Watford; ABC, Aylesbury; Halls, Oxford
(8. Carnarfon - Guess)
(10. 15 - Guess)
11. Shap, Beattock
13. Brakspears, Boddingtons
(14. Either Wolverhampton or Brum can't remember which)
15. Boys Bitter
16. Gibbs Mew

A4 Pacific's is what every TV programme refers to them. Not sure what previous name they may have had. Pacific's was the name as your title they were A4's. So A4 was part of the name.

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Originally Posted by sheffield hatter

Without Google I was able to have a stab at just half a dozen or so.

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1) Shipstones, Home Ales and Kimberley (AKA Hardy's and Hansons)*
2) Christine Perfect/McVie (Fleetwood Mac)
7) Benskins (Watford), ABC (Aylesbury Brewing Company), Ansells (Birmingham) (I realise that ABC is probably wrong, because it makes the place name part of the question otiose)
11) Shap, ... (had to Google the other summit, but at least I now know how to spell it correctly)
13) Boddingtons, Brakspear
14) Birmingham
15) Boys Bitter

* Can I claim an extra half mark for getting the correct number of apostrophes, and in the right place? (Some later logos had no aspotrophes at all, and sometimes no S on Hardy, or no S on either name, but I think Hardy's originally had an apostrophe and Hansons didn't.)

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

I'll publish the answers when I think everyone who wants to has had a go. I'm surprised you didn't know the Nottingham & Ind Coope ones,
The A4 LNER class seems to be causing problems. Maybe it's just a London name, but as a schoolboy it's what they were called, I don't recall anyone ever calling them A4s,
I used to do a pub quiz. The most memorable win was when the late Mrs Aqualung managed to name all of the Waltons from that horrible TV show! Goodnight LC!

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We used to have a great laugh 3 of us were pretty good at quizzing and our mate Billy who was pretty useless but he had done 15 years in the merchant navy so knew a fair bit about boats and only answered one question about every 3 weeks but it was one that no other team knew.He then worked for about 20 years at Watneys brewer so he wasn't expected to know anything about beer.LOL

Apologies I spelt Beattock as Beatcock. My bad.

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Originally Posted by oldboots

Ungoogled:

1. Hardy & Hansons, Shipstone, Home
(2. Christine McVie - Guess)
3. GWR locomotive
4. Paines
7. Benskins, Watford; ABC, Aylesbury; Halls, Oxford
(8. Carnarfon - Guess)
(10. 15 - Guess)
11. Shap, Beattock
13. Brakspears, Boddingtons
(14. Either Wolverhampton or Brum can't remember which)
15. Boys Bitter
16. Gibbs Mew

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Drove up Shap many a time going to Scotland.Had to keep your foot on the brake or in a low gear coming back.

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Originally Posted by bcfczuluarmy

Apologies I spelt Beattock as Beatcock. My bad.

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No need to apologise. We need all the laughs we can get.

I'm going to post the answers later tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by sheffield hatter

* Can I claim an extra half mark for getting the correct number of apostrophes, and in the right place? (Some later logos had no aspotrophes at all, and sometimes no S on Hardy, or no S on either name, but I think Hardy's originally had an apostrophe and Hansons didn't.)

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No! See below for what Mrs A called it!

ANWSERS

#7 is a bit disputed. As far as I'm concerned Ansell never went away and was Midlands anyway. The ABC brand was retained on their pubs but was Hall's resurrected?

1) Name the three independent Nottingham area breweries from early CAMRA days. I believe attempts have been made to resurrect all of them. (3 points)

Home, Shipstone & Hardy & Hanson (deliberately gobbledegooked to Handy Hardon by the late Mrs Aqualung).

2) Bearwood in Brum is notable for having a BCA and a reasonable GK pub close to each other. Which famous female songwriter, keyboard player and singer who is most fanous for being a member of a legendary rock band grew up in Bearwood?

Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac. As Christine Perfect she joined Chicken Shack.

3) What was a Dukedog?

It was an old steam loco that was a cut and shut of the GWR Bulldog & Duke classes. It saw service on the Cambrian Coast lines but struggled to climb up to the Talerddig summit where the line between Shrewsbury and Mach crosses from the Severn valleys to the Dyfi ones. The current crossing point is based at the old Talerddig station and the cutting is clearly visible West of it from today's trains where the 158 DMUs make mincemeat out of the climb.

4) Name the brewery that existed in early CAMRA days in the town of St Neots

Paines

5) From where did the name of the 10cc album "Deceptive Bends" come?

Moby knew it! They had a studio in Dorking and obviously saw the signs on the A24 in the Mole valley under Box Hill.

6) What does the old Welsh nationalist slogan "Cofiwch Dryweryn" mean and refer to? (2 points)

It's Remember Tryweryn. The Tryweryn valley near Bala was flooded to create Llyn Celyn way back in the 1960s. Apart from several farms in the valley being lost, another casualty was parts of the old rail line from Bala to Blaenau Ffestiniog. This would have been a prime candidate for preservation given the high elevation and superb scenery when it's not raining.

7) What were the three Southern brewery names that pub giant Ind Coope (aka Allied breweries) resurrected in the 1980s? This was a scam as they had all stopped brewing but can you also name their locations? (6 points).

I had in mind Taylor Walker of East London, Benskins of Watford and Friary Meux of Guildford (much earlier London). A porter called Taylor Walker Main Line was resurrected. I was much too young (shurely shome mishtake?) to remember this beer but did know people that had tried it. Aylesbury Brewery Co was a name retained by Allied and they may well have done an ABC bitter. I don't recall Halls being recreated but may be wrong.

8) What is the major Welsh town that the Led Zeppelin house Bron Yr Aur overlooks?

Machynlleth

9) What was the nickname given to the LNER and BR class A4 steam locomotives?

Streaks!! Was this really just a London thing?

10) How many Batham's pubs currently exist?

12

11) Name the two major summits that Glasgow and Edinburgh bound WCML trains traverse.(2 poinrs)

Shap & Beattock. If you go ro Scotland travel from Euston!

12) The home depot of steam locomotives had a code that was attached to the front of the locomotive. What places did these codes represent? 81A, 1B, 50A, 60A, 89C? This was prior to 1963 when changes were made. (5 points)

Old Oak Common, Camden, York, Inverness & Machynlleth.

13) Name the two defunct independent breweries from early CAMRA days that had a Bee in their trading logo. (2 points)

Brakspear & Boddington

14) Which English city produced these groups, The Moody Blues, Black Sabbath and Duran Duran?

Birmingham

15) In the main, Mild wasn't produced by West of England brewers. What was the nickname applied to the low abv bitters they produced instead?

Boy's Bitter / Boy's Beer

16) Name the defunct Salisbury brewety that produced a fine dark strong ale called Bishop's Tipple?

Gibbs Mew

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

ANWSERS

#7 is a bit disputed. As far as I'm concerned Ansell never went away and was Midlands anyway. The ABC brand was retained on their pubs but was Hall's resurrected?

1) Name the three independent Nottingham area breweries from early CAMRA days. I believe attempts have been made to resurrect all of them. (3 points)

Home, Shipstone & Hardy & Hanson (deliberately gobbledegooked to Handy Hardon by the late Mrs Aqualung).

2) Bearwood in Brum is notable for having a BCA and a reasonable GK pub close to each other. Which famous female songwriter, keyboard player and singer who is most fanous for being a member of a legendary rock band grew up in Bearwood?

Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac. As Christine Perfect she joined Chicken Shack.

3) What was a Dukedog?

It was an old steam loco that was a cut and shut of the GWR Bulldog & Duke classes. It saw service on the Cambrian Coast lines but struggled to climb up to the Talerddig summit where the line between Shrewsbury and Mach crosses from the Severn valleys to the Dyfi ones. The current crossing point is based at the old Talerddig station and the cutting is clearly visible West of it from today's trains where the 158 DMUs make mincemeat out of the climb.

4) Name the brewery that existed in early CAMRA days in the town of St Neots

Paines

5) From where did the name of the 10cc album "Deceptive Bends" come?

Moby knew it! They had a studio in Dorking and obviously saw the signs on the A24 in the Mole valley under Box Hill.

6) What does the old Welsh nationalist slogan "Cofiwch Dryweryn" mean and refer to? (2 points)

It's Remember Tryweryn. The Tryweryn valley near Bala was flooded to create Llyn Celyn way back in the 1960s. Apart from several farms in the valley being lost, another casualty was parts of the old rail line from Bala to Blaenau Ffestiniog. This would have been a prime candidate for preservation given the high elevation and superb scenery when it's not raining.

7) What were the three Southern brewery names that pub giant Ind Coope (aka Allied breweries) resurrected in the 1980s? This was a scam as they had all stopped brewing but can you also name their locations? (6 points).

I had in mind Taylor Walker of East London, Benskins of Watford and Friary Meux of Guildford (much earlier London). A porter called Taylor Walker Main Line was resurrected. I was much too young (shurely shome mishtake?) to remember this beer but did know people that had tried it. Aylesbury Brewery Co was a name retained by Allied and they may well have done an ABC bitter. I don't recall Halls being recreated but may be wrong.

8) What is the major Welsh town that the Led Zeppelin house Bron Yr Aur overlooks?

Machynlleth

9) What was the nickname given to the LNER and BR class A4 steam locomotives?

Streaks!! Was this really just a London thing?

10) How many Batham's pubs currently exist?

12

11) Name the two major summits that Glasgow and Edinburgh bound WCML trains traverse.(2 poinrs)

Shap & Beattock. If you go ro Scotland travel from Euston!

12) The home depot of steam locomotives had a code that was attached to the front of the locomotive. What places did these codes represent? 81A, 1B, 50A, 60A, 89C? This was prior to 1963 when changes were made. (5 points)

Old Oak Common, Camden, York, Inverness & Machynlleth.

13) Name the two defunct independent breweries from early CAMRA days that had a Bee in their trading logo. (2 points)

Brakspear & Boddington

14) Which English city produced these groups, The Moody Blues, Black Sabbath and Duran Duran?

Birmingham

15) In the main, Mild wasn't produced by West of England brewers. What was the nickname applied to the low abv bitters they produced instead?

Boy's Bitter / Boy's Beer

16) Name the defunct Salisbury brewety that produced a fine dark strong ale called Bishop's Tipple?

Gibbs Mew

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As I didn't google it .What do you mean by the Led Zepplin house. Am listening to I would rather go Blind by Christine Perfect.One of my favourite bluesy records

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Originally Posted by london calling

As I didn't google it .What do you mean by the Led Zepplin house.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bron-Yr-Aur

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

9) What was the nickname given to the LNER and BR class A4 steam locomotives?

Streaks!! Was this really just a London thing?

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I guess it's a train-spotters thing.

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

12) The home depot of steam locomotives had a code that was attached to the front of the locomotive. What places did these codes represent? 81A, 1B, 50A, 60A, 89C? This was prior to 1963 when changes were made. (5 points)

Old Oak Common, Camden, York, Inverness & Machynlleth.

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...as is this.

I can't think how anyone would have known these two if they hadn't been a huge train enthusiast. Unless they were boning up in expectation of a quiz?

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Originally Posted by sheffield hatter

I guess it's a train-spotters thing.

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My favourite train nickname is for the Class 66 (just the mention of which will probably cause steam-age gricers to have apoplexy, but surely the most successful locomotive of all time...) - this can be used as a tie-breaker if you wish!

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Originally Posted by rpadam

My favourite train nickname is for the Class 66 (just the mention of which will probably cause steam-age gricers to have apoplexy, but surely the most successful locomotive of all time...) - this can be used as a tie-breaker if you wish!

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I had to look that one up! I suspect that like the terms weasel and kettle it's derogatory.
I would probably have gone for the class 47 or 37 diesels. Are the 66 ones freight only? They haven't really been around long enough to make that call have they?

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

I had to look that one up! I suspect that like the terms weasel and kettle it's derogatory.
I would probably have gone for the class 47 or 37 diesels. Are the 66 ones freight only? They haven't really been around long enough to make that call have they?

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I've always thought the 66 nickname comes from the shape of the roof over the drivers cab but I could be wrong.

PS, just looked it up, cab roof shape

BTW the first 66 was delivered in 1998 for testing, they are no longer made due partly to emission regulations. The only current UK operators are freight companies.

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Originally Posted by oldboots

I've always thought the 66 nickname comes from the shape of the roof over the drivers cab but I could be wrong.

PS, just looked it up, cab roof shape

BTW the first 66 was delivered in 1998 for testing, they are no longer made due partly to emission regulations. The only current UK operators are freight companies.

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Yes, I found the reason for the name when I looked it up. What I was getting at was whether they have the capability of hauling passenger trains as I don't think they have any train heating abilities but I don't know for sure. loco hauled trains seem to be largely a thing of the past nowadays. The only ones I cam think of are any class 91 electrics left on the ECML, a few Chiltern line services and the Caledonian sleepers.

Based on the Foster Yeoman class 59 that had been around yonks prior.

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Originally Posted by bcfczuluarmy

Based on the Foster Yeoman class 59 that had been around yonks prior.

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Which I also discovered when looking up the nickname!!

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

Yes, I found the reason for the name when I looked it up. What I was getting at was whether they have the capability of hauling passenger trains as I don't think they have any train heating abilities but I don't know for sure. loco hauled trains seem to be largely a thing of the past nowadays. The only ones I cam think of are any class 91 electrics left on the ECML, a few Chiltern line services and the Caledonian sleepers.

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Class 68 on ECML are hauling passenger service as well, don't know what fittings the 66 has but I'd be surprised if train heating was included.

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Originally Posted by oldboots

Class 68 on ECML are hauling passenger service as well, don't know what fittings the 66 has but I'd be surprised if train heating was included.

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No, Class 66 don't have train heating and do not work passenger trains except in an emergency. However for a time they did work on the Caledonian Sleeper, with a second (different) locomotive added just to provide heating.

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

. loco hauled trains seem to be largely a thing of the past nowadays. The only ones I cam think of are any class 91 electrics left on the ECML, a few Chiltern line services and the Caledonian sleepers.

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Correct, but also the Penzance sleeper, some odd Transport for Wales services and, most significantly, the fleet of new Trans Pennine Nova 3 trains which use Class 68s in push-pull mode, when they get them all working.

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Originally Posted by Pangolin

Correct, but also the Penzance sleeper, some odd Transport for Wales services and, most significantly, the fleet of new Trans Pennine Nova 3 trains which use Class 68s in push-pull mode, when they get them all working.

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I'd completely forgotten about the Penzance sleeper, I don't recall ever seeing it!
I wonder if that TFW Rail service is the one for N Wales Assembly members to get to and from Cardiff.
I didn't know about the Trans Pennine ones.