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			<title>The Pub Curmudgeon - Take me to the pilot</title>
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<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BjrMX7Eg4ok/T8D5yHQZc4I/AAAAAAAABKo/2a4ih7Km19o/s1600/underbank.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BjrMX7Eg4ok/T8D5yHQZc4I/AAAAAAAABKo/2a4ih7Km19o/s200/underbank.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>I recently posted about <a href="http://pubcurmudgeon.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/market-failure.html" target="_blank">the decline of the pub scene around Stockport Market Place</a>, and Moorendman <a href="http://mellorview.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/queasy-on-a-stockport-morning/" target="_blank">extrapolated from this</a> to a more general theme about the steady run-down of Stockport town centre. <br />
So it’s interesting to hear that Stockport has been chosen to become a <a href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1534732_stockport-wins-100000-share-of-portas-pilot-cash-to-revive-high-street" target="_blank">Portas Pilot town</a>, receiving £100,000 from the government to revitalise the town centre, in a scheme inspired by retail guru Mary Portas. <br />
This must be good news, but let’s hope the project remains grounded in reality rather than veering off into flights of utopian fantasy like <a href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1490464_mary-portas-praises-eccles-levenshulme-and-stockport-video-bids-on-twitter" target="_blank">the comment by Laurence Hennigan</a> about Levenshulme’s bid that “the government grant would be used to spruce up empty shops, which would then be filled by start-up businesses selling art, crochet knitting and cupcakes.” <br />
I would have thought a couple of obvious points in reviving the Market/Underbanks area would be more affordable short and medium term parking, and providing some decent public toilets at that end of town. And, while it’s clearly somewhat chicken-and-egg, the dearth of well-known restaurant chains in Stockport is very noticeable. Cheadle and Bramhall can sustain a Pizza Express, but not Stockport itself. <br />
It’s also important to remember, <a href="http://pubcurmudgeon.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/failure-breeds-failure.html" target="_blank">as I posted here</a>, the role that employment plays in keeping town centres busy and vibrant. You can’t consider the retail sector in isolation. <br />
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			<description>We are off for our summer in Cornwall and know of St Ives and Plymouth beer festivals but wondered if anyone knew of pub festivals in the area.   
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>We are off for our summer in Cornwall and know of St Ives and Plymouth beer festivals but wondered if anyone knew of pub festivals in the area.  <br />
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Thought there may be a few with the Bank Holiday and celebrations on the go, but only know of Watermill at Lelant and Star at Vogue.<br />
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Does anyone know of others around please?  With so many tied pubs around we need the odd festival injection now and then.<br />
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Much of Belgium was smashed up during WW I. Including many breweries. Others had their copper vessels looted by the Germans. The 1920's were a period of great reconstruction for the Belgian brewing industry.<br />
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Luckily a British brewer was on hand to record the efforts of the Belgians to get back on their brewing feet:<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px"><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BeyqV_rhZQY/T7yU4Jp7_MI/AAAAAAAAJE4/MfYBNt4XeOo/s1600/Hamerken_Faro_1959.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BeyqV_rhZQY/T7yU4Jp7_MI/AAAAAAAAJE4/MfYBNt4XeOo/s320/Hamerken_Faro_1959.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>&quot;CORRESPONDENCE.<br />
To the Editor of The Brewers' Journal.<br />
Brewing in Belgium.<br />
Dear Sir,—Perhaps a short account of a brewer's &quot;holiday&quot; may interest some of your readers. Being in Ostend the idea arose to take a run round the neighbouring country and see how the brewers of the district were rebuilding their concerns. Dixmude, which remained in memory as one of the most shattered towns of Flanders, seemed a suitable place to make a start, and as the town was entered there appeared a new building, just now perhaps the most notable achievement of reconstruction in a place whose monuments —church and town hall—are merely heaps of ruins. This turned out to be a brewery, and inside was a model of compactness—a little mash-tun of about six quarters capacity commanding a vessel of the Wooldridge system of about 50 barrels, served by a Worthington pump and ejector to produce the vacuum, and alongside a fermenting room with two squares lined with white glazed tiles. Just the system it would appear to suit these small concerns who wish to re-erect a brewery in as small space as possible and with the greatest economy of building, and, as was later proved at a similar brewery in Ostend, capable of turning out most excellent light-top fermentation beers of 1035 deg. gravity or pale ales of 1065 deg. and stouts of 1070 deg.<br />
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Little breweries restarted on their old systems did not interest so much, but gave rise to a certain amount of amusement. One produced a beer—which by its slight acidity pleased its clientele—with a yeast that would not ferment unless pitched at 86 deg. Fahr., and no wonder. It consisted of quite as many bacteria and wild yeast as of the more desirable species. This had recently been pointed out to the owner, who thereupon tried a change, and pitched as usual at 86 deg. Fahr. in his wort receiver, running down direct into trade casks to ferment, when to his great alarm the yeast refused to come out through the bung hole, but settled to the bottom. This change from a true top to bottom habit through change of pitching temperature was most interesting to the enquiring visitor, but not to the suffering brewer, although the beer was good. He, like the great majority of his confreres, had no idea of fermentation temperatures in cask and the niceties of his art left him cold ; but why worry when trade was good?<br />
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<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GCIMfCmcGY4/T7yUezXcVyI/AAAAAAAAJEw/wZUVzqcixrw/s1600/Ouvriers_Reunis_Stout_1940.JPG" target="_blank"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GCIMfCmcGY4/T7yUezXcVyI/AAAAAAAAJEw/wZUVzqcixrw/s320/Ouvriers_Reunis_Stout_1940.JPG" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>Passing on, the glorious town of Bruges was reached, and here just beside the ramparts a stately old Flemish structure gave not the slightest hint that many of the brewers of the neighbourhood had combined, and in it, erected a plant to produce in co-operation the beer they needed. But such was the case, and inside was a Nathan plant complete seven fermenting vessels of about 120 barrels each with a yeast vessel, all of steel, varnished inside, with double jackets for the brine cooling and concrete outer structure—a plant fitted with the latest devices and capable of about 20,000 barrels a year, constituting a monument of enterprise. Refrigeration was conducted in a room supplied with filtered air and connected with the new Nathan device for settling the worts before running to fermenting vessel, and the writer noticed all needful plant for collecting the C02 for use or liquefying it for sale. Although this brewery had only been running for a fortnight, a delightful glass of cold filtered beer was presented and the decision made to go and taste some more at a cafe in the town. It was bottom fermentation beer produced and finished in ten days from mashing, bright and sparkling, but hardly with the flavour of true lager. But that would not seem to matter in a country that drinks top fermentation beers so largely.<br />
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Thus in a delightful run of fifty miles, examples of the two types of breweries which are arising to take the place of those destroyed in war were visited — the one a type of what should be the aim of the little brewer who wishes economically to set himself up again, and the other an example of what co-operation can achieve. Which will prove the more suitable to the country and the more profitable to the owners is a point yet to be decided.<br />
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Many corporations of brewers are now being formed, as may be instanced by the prospectuses just issued by eight brewers of Ypres who, with the remaining dozen or so brewers of that town, intend to erect a brewery with an output of about 30,000 barrels a year to take the place of the 20 or so little breweries that used to exist there.<br />
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At present it is not known what system this &quot;Brasserie centrale yproise, Société Co-operative&quot; will adopt. But, probably, it will be a top fermentation brewery as are all the smaller concerns.<br />
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Yours faithfully, <br />
A London Brewer.<br />
Ostend,<br />
July 2nd, 1921.&quot;<br />
Brewers Journal 1921, page 296.</div>Belgium had a crazy number of breweries before WW I. More than 3,000. Many of those never re-opened, for a variety of reasons. Smashed up buildings, lost equipment, lack of cash, death of the brewer. Others decided to group together and rebuild cooperatively. <br />
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Let's start with that brewery in Dixmude. A six-quarter plant is tiny. Enough to brew about 25 barrels at a time. It probably produced no more than a couple of thousand barrels a year. I can visualise the brewery quite well. There are loads of little 1920's breweries in Belgium and I've seen a fair few.<br />
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I'm glad the author told us something about the beers brewed in the small Ostend brewery. It's an interesting range, all top-fermenting, of course. Belgium wasn't always a country of strong beers. The further you go back in time, the weaker the average strength gets. A bit like the UK in reverse. So while they brewed a Pale Ale and Stout of reasonable gravity, I'd put money on the light 1035 beer being by far the biggest seller of the three.<br />
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The brewer pitching at 86º F is a fascinating example of the primitive nature of some Belgian brewing. Fermenting in trade casks is very 18th century. I'm sure no British brewery was using the technique in the 1920's. I wonder what the beer was? One of the less sour Belgian types, I guess. Sounds like he had an interesting pitching yeast, with all the bacteria and wild yeast. Very, er, Belgian.<br />
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The brewery in Bruges sounds much more modern. But, producing 20,000 barrels a year, still pretty small by British standards of the period. In 1914 there were 280 breweries in the UK producing between 20,000 and 100,000 barrels*. It seems to have been brewing a pseudo-Pils. Ten days from mashing to sale? That's a joke for a bottom-fermented beer. I'm not surprised that it didn't have a proper Lager flavour.<br />
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There's lots of good stuff on continental brewing in the Brewers' Journal. I'm just OCRing a long article on Scandinavia. Then there's a whole series of articles on Lager brewing. That would keep me going for weeks.<br />
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* 1928 Brewers' Almanack, page 118.<br />
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I’ll tell you what I love about <a href="http://www.brewdog.com/" target="_blank">Brewdog</a> - hops. The hop flavour they manage to tear from those little green cones and force into their beer.<br />
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Hopping is a funny thing. On the face of it, it’s simple. You want more hop flavour and aroma in your beer, you add more hops. Right? Simple. Add hops early in the boil to extract bitterness and late in the boil to impart flavour and aroma. Easy. So why is it then that so many breweries fail to achieve this? Why is it that so many beers have a hundredweight of hop pellet thrown at them but don’t have good hop flavour?<br />
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Despite what the derisory best bitter diehard is quick to tell you, it isn’t easy to make a good hop-forward beer. It’s easy to throw handfuls of hop into wort, but what you’ll likely end up with is a beer that tastes vegetal, bitter to the point of astringent, tannic, leafy and grassy.<br />
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Back to Brewdog. Brewdog manage to use hops in a way that captures the essence of a particular hop variety. In their Punk IPA you can clearly taste lychee and tropical fruit from the Nelson Sauvin, you can get citrus peel and pith from the Chinook’s they use too. In Hardcore IPA they won World Beer Cup Gold by capturing the intense citrus of Centennial and teaming it with the resinous, piney dankness of Simcoe and Columbus. Maybe it’s the Scottish water their beer is made with, maybe it’s the combination of the sheer amount of hops they use and how they add them. Whatever it is, Brewdog are hop masters; a mastery that shouldn’t be underplayed.<br />
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<div style="text-align: center;">***</div><br />
The <a href="http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article/ipa-is-dead1" target="_blank">IPA is Dead</a> series is a master class in hopping. Four beers built on the same base recipe, each one showcasing a different hop variety. It’s a series that isn’t appreciated enough; irrespective of how well each beer works as a finished product, they’re all brilliantly crafted expressions of a single, chosen ingredient.<br />
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The second instalment in the series features a variety called Motueka from New Zealand, Australian Galaxy, a classic English variety in Challenger and a new, experimental US variety named HBC.<br />
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Challenger: Immediately English. The malt is allowed to come through in notes of gentle caramel; balanced by a woody, bracken-like, bramble hop flavour. Damp moss and earth. Alcohol warmth with a near-brandy quality to it. No citrus in sight.<br />
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HBC: Now we’re closer to regular New-World-IPA country. Rindy, zesty, limey, peach and pepper. I’d believe you if you told me this hop was closely related to Citra. Grapefruit too. The malt morphs into a candy sweetness.<br />
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Galaxy: Keeping it real, citrus style. A step further towards the American IPAs I’m used to. Lots of citrus pith and grapefruit. Piney. Resinous. Delicious.<br />
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Motueka: Hard work in the best way - something that makes you think, something that demands your attention. Lemon mousse and mint. That cool feeling after you brush your teeth - menthol. Lime and something else tropical - maybe even coconut.<br />
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<i>A brilliant four-pack of beer. I loved the HBC for its straight-up citrus and I’d order the Motueka again purely for how interesting it is. If you see them, give them a try.</i><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've had a look for <a href="http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/37075/" target="_blank">Bridgies</a> in Meadow Court on Google maps street view, but all I can find is the <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=CV11+5JE&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=52.524868,-1.475016&amp;spn=0.000898,0.003449&amp;sll=52.522945,-1.46528&amp;sspn=0.000996,0.001725&amp;t=h&amp;hnear=Nuneaton+CV11+5JE,+United+Kingdom&amp;z=18&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=52.524869,-1.475014&amp;panoid=_2LvifrzOKZyfcIKhCs_0Q&amp;cbp=11,102.81,,0,-3.13" target="_blank">Abbey Social Club</a>. Perhaps this used to be a pub, or possibly Bridgies is an informal name for the club. I'm inclined to go with the latter, judging on looks, so suggest it should be deleted.<br />
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<a href="http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/37128/" target="_blank">Eliotts</a> is now called <b>The Blue Bear</b>. Its address is <b>15 </b>Abbey Street and the postcode CV11 5B<b>T</b>. <br />
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The <a href="http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/37100/" target="_blank">Harcourt</a> and the <a href="http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/37115/" target="_blank">Merevale</a> appear to have been demolished to make way for a ring road. The former was at 22 Princes Street, which no longer exists. The latter's correct postcode was CV11 5Q<b>G</b>, which appears to have belonged to the part of Dugdale Street that also no longer exists. (The name of the pub has been repeated in the address: please delete.) I have marked both as closed for the reasons stated, though I have not been able to find any references to their actual demolition (probably in the 1980s). (I have moved the map points to where I guess they may have stood.)<br />
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The <a href="http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/37124/" target="_blank">Pen &amp; Wig</a> is now <b>Reflex</b>.<br />
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The postcode for the <a href="http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/37148/" target="_blank">Wheatsheaf</a> is CV11 5<b>DJ</b>. I have corrected the map point.</div>

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<a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uhSBOPwIyfE/T789ISpUqwI/AAAAAAAADPk/uINMETv25gI/s1600/leesbitterhandpump.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uhSBOPwIyfE/T789ISpUqwI/AAAAAAAADPk/uINMETv25gI/s320/leesbitterhandpump.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>As <b>CAMRA</b> celebrates Mild Month, with the aim of promoting a style of beer that was in danger of disappearing from our pubs, it is perhaps a fitting time to point out another endangered species.  While few of us indeed can walk into a pub as a matter of routine and order a pint of mild, how many of us can walk into a pub and make that classic order &quot;Pint of Bitter please&quot;?  Chances are that unless you live near a pub owned by one of the Family Brewers, you can't. Or at least since bitter is a fairly well known generic term, you can't without further discussion as to which &quot;bitter&quot; you want.  Now of course it may well be that you have no interest whatever in &quot;ordinary&quot; bitter, but I for one regard it as a classic English icon and it would be a shame to lose it as a widely understood term.There is something particularly &quot;right&quot; to me in ordering one, but then again, I'm a sentimental old git.<br />
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<b>So when was the last time you walked into a pub and asked for a pint of bitter and were given a pint without further discussion as to what you actually wanted?</b><br />
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<b>I do my bit to preserve it every Sunday of course. And the odd day in between. So it isn't my fault.</b><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8629758183547510158-3703916860484062692?l=tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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			<title>a swift one - Nook Brewery Tours</title>
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If you at a loose end over the Jubilee Weekend, and can drag yourself away from watching all the celebrations, the Nook Brewery at Holmfirth are promising brewery tours throughout the weekend from the  Ist of June through till the 5th.<br />
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			<title>a swift one - Navvy Festival approaching</title>
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One of my favourite local pub festivals is on the horizon again, and this time promises a selection of beer from Somerset, Devon and Cornwall. There should be 40 beers available at any time with some in reserve should they be required. The festival runs through from the 28th June until 1st July at the <b>Navigation</b> pub in Mirfield, a short walk from the railway station. Sounds like another winner !<img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5761264498865183675-7441781310052648010?l=www.aswiftone.com" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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			<description>The Crown Inn (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/60593/) - this is now The Fontmell</description>
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I told you I'd be coming to the shadowy syndicate trying to take over the Pattisons business. We'll be getting to them in a minute. First some lighter news - the personal bankruptcy of Robert Paterson Pattison (crazy name, crazy guy).<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px"><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Szgy32oER4A/T7tOVrQwosI/AAAAAAAAJEA/rB42GleaA_Y/s1600/Pattisons_whisky_advert_4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Szgy32oER4A/T7tOVrQwosI/AAAAAAAAJEA/rB42GleaA_Y/s400/Pattisons_whisky_advert_4.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></div>&quot;THE Estates of ROBERT PATERSON PATTISON, sometimes called ROBERT PATTISON, Distiller and Wine Merchant. Leith, were Sequestrated on the 9th day of March 1899, by the Court of Session.<br />
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The first Deliverance is dated the 9th day of March 1899.<br />
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The Meeting to elect a Trustee and Commissioners is to be held at twelve o'clock noon, on Saturday the 18th day of March 1899, within Dowell's Rooms, No. 18 George Street, Edinburgh.<br />
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A Composition may be offered at this Meeting ; and to entitle Creditors to the first Dividend, their oaths and grounds of debt must be lodged on or before the 10th day of July 1899.<br />
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The Sequestration has been remitted to the Sheriff of the Lothians and Peebles at Edinburgh.<br />
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All future Advertisements relating to this Sequestration will be published in the Edinburgh Gazette alone.<br />
DAVIDSON &amp; SYME, W.S.,<br />
28 Charlotte Square, Edinburgh, Agents.&quot;<br />
THE EDINBURGH GAZETTE, MARCH 10, 1899, page 267.</div>Short and to the point, eh?<br />
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What I don't quite get is how, despite being bankrupt, there was still a trade in Pattison's shares. OK, they weren't going for anything like the £10 they had originally cost. Knowing what I do, I'd have snatched the hand off anyone who offered me a couple of quid a throw for them. Read this and things may become a little clearer:<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px">&quot;<b>PATTISON'S WHISKY FAILURE. </b><br />
<b>NEW SCHEME. </b><br />
Considerable interest has been excited, during the course of the past week by what may be called a boom in the preference shares of Pattison's, Limited. Since the 6th March, when the preference shares stood at 14s, the price has steadily gone up. This week the top quotation at which business was done is 48s 6d, and at present they stand a few shillings under that figure. The explanation of this boom. is the rumour of a proposed reconstruction scheme which a London syndicate is said to have initiated. The scheme is understood to take the form of a new company, with a capital of £400,000, which it is said is already underwritten. In consideration of the purchase of the entire business the syndicate propose to pay the secured creditors in full, to give the unsecured creditors 13s 4d in the £, and to allot to the shareholders £6 5s of scrip in the new concern for every £10 shares held at present. The liquidators will require the consent of the Court before any scheme of this kind could be adopted, and while it is stated that a number of wealthy men are interested in it, the scheme is received with some hesitation in commercial circles.&quot;<br />
Belfast News-Letter - Wednesday 15 March 1899, page 8.</div>With the syndicate proposing to give more than 6 quid in new shares for each old £10 share, there was a potential profit if you could pick up the old ones cheaply enough. Of course, that only applied if the syndicate's bid were successful.  <br />
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But the price of Pattison's shares jumped up and down on rumours of the syndicate's progress. The court asked it to jump through a few hoops to prove it was serious. When they were reluctant to jump, investors got jittery:<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px">&quot;<b>GLASGOW STOCK EXCHANGE. <br />
EXCITEMENT IN PATTISONS. <br />
WHY THEY FELL AND WHY THEY RALLIED. </b><br />
Glasgow, Wednesday Evening. Pattisons Preference shares furnished a sensation at the opening to-day, business being done down to 16s, as against 47s. The reason set forth was that the syndicate, which was asked by the Court to lodge £50,000 as a guarantee of good faith, had failed to do so, and had offered only half that amount. Everybody was a seller, Edinburgh quoting even as low as 13s 9d. However, the price rapidly rallied to 28s 3d, and closed at 23s 3d. It would, therefore, look as if the necessary money will be forthcoming to push on the reconstruction. London got some of the shares to-day.&quot;<br />
Dundee Courier - Thursday 23 March 1899, page 2.</div>Just see how the price bounced back up again after the syndicate paid in the £50,000:<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px">&quot;<b>PATTISON'S BUSINESS. </b><br />
<b>PROCEEDINGS OF THE SYNDICATE. </b><br />
Mr. James Craig, chartered accountant, on behalf of the London syndicate who propose acquiring the business of Pattison's Limited, lodged in the Bank of Scotland yesterday afternoon, in the names of the liquidators and himself, the £50,000 stipulated by Lord Darling as necessary that he might give the liquidators authority to allow the syndicate to examine the books of the firm. On Tuesday the syndicate offered £25,000, but the Judge declined permission at this figure. It is understood that, as the result of this new development, the negotiations for the acquisition of the business will be continued.&quot;<br />
Leeds Mercury - Thursday 23 March 1899, page 7.</div>That good news saw the price of the shares rise on the very last day they could be traded:<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px">&quot;Pattison Preference shares, which, by the way, have been to-day deleted from the Stock Exchange Official Share List, have changed hands from 38s to 42s 6d, closing about the latter quotation. The books of the Company will be closed finally on the 15th prox,, and all dealings now will be settled for special settlement, which has been fixed for the 10th prox.&quot;<br />
Dundee Courier - Tuesday 28 March 1899, page 2.</div>Clearly there were many willing to take a punt on the success of the syndicate. Remember they were offering £6 5s worth of new shares for each old £10 share. So if you could pick up one of the latter for £2, there was more than £4 profit. A pretty good return. But only if the syndicate were successful. If they weren't, the shares were likely to be worthless.<br />
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Macnamaras, Camborne, has been called The Clipper Bar for something like nine years now! It's still open. 
 
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Macnamaras, Camborne, has been called The Clipper Bar for something like nine years now! It's still open.<br />
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The Smugglers Inn, Cawsand, has been called The Cross Keys  for at least three years.<br />
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			<description>This pub (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/64161/) has the extended name Cowbridge House Inn 
 
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 13:47:27 GMT</pubDate>
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Right now, I am drinking  Elgoods Black Dog.  
 
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Right now, I am drinking  Elgoods Black Dog. <br />
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