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hondo
24-01-2011, 11:14
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12254668 :eek:

RogerB
24-01-2011, 11:27
Just the 1600 calories last night for me then.

Alesonly
24-01-2011, 11:40
Only 750 calories last night but I would not want add up this weeks total by next Sunday. :D

Oggwyn Trench
24-01-2011, 12:05
I used Saturdays drinking , 1600 calories , but how did they know exatly what i ate when i got home:D

Strongers
24-01-2011, 12:35
I used Saturdays drinking , 1600 calories , but how did they know exatly what i ate when i got home:D

:lol:

I supposedly spent £25.... Yeah, maybe if I was drinking in the 1970s!

Al 10000
24-01-2011, 14:18
1600 calories and 85% of my weekly allowance in one day i must try and improve on this.

Evil Gazebo
24-01-2011, 14:31
For something which is, presumably, intended to encourage moderation, it does look alarmingly like the type of thing to have the opposite effect entirely.

Right, I'm off out to try and beat my high score.

Conrad
24-01-2011, 15:56
If I had everything I wanted to do in PuG, we would have this coupled with a Beer of the Week thing, so that you could see all you had drunk and a unit tally.

All in the cause of encouraging responsible drinking of course.

runningdog
25-01-2011, 10:41
:lol:I supposedly spent £25.... Yeah, maybe if I was drinking in the 1970s!
I beg to differ there. I had two pints of Black Horse Porter and two pints of Jaipur. The booze calculator was pretty well spot on for both the number of units and the price. I can see it becoming addictive, strong beer that is, I'm pretty good at at working out how much trouble I'm in already..........:D:drinkup::drinkup::drinkup:

Alesonly
25-01-2011, 11:47
Just added in Yesterdays Total 10 Pints 2000 Calories & £30 spent which was about right as I was in the Spoons for 4 Pints lunch time Liquid Lunch and had Six in the the Springfield in the evening

arwkrite
25-01-2011, 13:14
I don't want to know. Ignorance is bliss.

gillhalfpint
25-01-2011, 13:40
My thoughts too. I just want to enjoy it and not worry about implications charts and tables etc.

Al 10000
25-01-2011, 15:43
I think if we put my pub crawl in Oldham, Strongers pub crawl in Islington and Bucking Fastards pub crawl in Dorking the machine would either blow up or run out of food :D

hondo
26-01-2011, 11:18
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Health-chiefs-spend-300000-on.6702698.jp

trainman
26-01-2011, 11:37
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Health-chiefs-spend-300000-on.6702698.jp

Apart from being quite ludicrous, how could they get mugged for 56p(!!!) per cup? The manufacturer certainly saw them coming.

And the flippin 'unit' is still an arbitrary (and seemingly moving) measurement plucked from thin air, without scientific calibration, by an erstwhile health 'advisor', isn't it?

Conrad
26-01-2011, 12:52
I think the unit is fixed (would need to double check), but requires you to know the abv of the drink you are pouring to make any sense.

Any way you cut it seems like a stupid idea though, surely there are better ways of educating drinkers.

Evil Gazebo
26-01-2011, 14:19
Hahaha! I honestly thought 56p per cup must be a typo for 5.6p until I read the story. That is an astonishing example of how easy government bodies find it to throw public money away. Especially as the cups have just been indiscriminately handed out for free, so they'll quickly end up in the bin or used as kitchen measuring cups.

I bet whoever owns the company that relieved the Scottish taxpayer of over £300k is drinking rather more than the recommended weekly allowance in celebration. I would be.

This appears to be the agreed definition of a unit of alcohol. (Taken from the NHS website, but crops up regularly elsewhere)


One unit is 8 grams or 10 millilitres of alcohol. Half a pint of 3.6% ABV beer contains almost exactly one unit, as does 25ml of whiskey at 40%.

trainman
26-01-2011, 14:25
'unit' ... seemingly moving measurement


I think the unit is fixed


I suggested it may be a moving target as we used to think 6 units per btl wine, now it's 9.5, or 11?? Still an (initially) arbitrarily allocated measurement in my view.



This appears to be the agreed definition of a unit of alcohol...

Fair enough, I'll have to be even more honest next time the Doc asks.

Conrad
26-01-2011, 14:36
I suggested it may be a moving target as we used to think 6 units per btl wine, now it's 9.5, or 11?? Still an (initially) arbitrarily allocated measurement in my view.
Isn't this part of the ongoing thing that we are just drinking stronger drinks now? Not sure whether it is true but it is certainly the excuse I have heard for this.

Al 10000
26-01-2011, 15:20
I always thought the unit was fixed at either 3.6% or 3.7% it is the amount of units they advise people to drink a week that has been plucked out of the sky 21 for men and 14 for women.
I have been out with some women who can out drink most blokes,and who chose these magical figures in the first place.

Conrad
26-01-2011, 15:39
It amuses me how these sort of diversions occur. Been off and read the Wikipedia explanation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_alcohol) now :).

Al 10000
26-01-2011, 15:47
Having read that most forum users will have to be more carefull with their hips in the future.

oldboots
26-01-2011, 16:10
The "unit" is fixed at 10 millilitres of 100% abv (which equals 1 litre at 1%) or 8 grams of pure alcohol by weight and so a half pint at 3.5% is very nearly 1 unit (0.994).

The way to work it out is multiply the ABV by 0.284 for a half or 0.568 for a pint (these are the litre equivalents of a half and a pint) 3.5 X 0.284 = 0.994.

The arbitary bit is the number of units per week or per session the health facists recommend. This is actually a number plucked from the air as an arse covering exercise by "experts" put on the spot by some health minister many years ago. it is not based on serious research or put in more technical terms, it's utter bollox. :mad:

When I said to my nosey doc' I averaged 15 pints a week he reckoned that was 30 units and I was a binge drinker, I didn't have the heart to worry the poor chap by telling him the actual number of units was a lot higher :D.

Conrad
26-01-2011, 16:13
The arbitary bit is the number of units per week or per session the health facists recommend. This is actually a number plucked from the air as an arse covering exercise by "experts" put on the spot by some health minister many years ago. it is not based on serious research or put in more technical terms, it's utter bollox. :mad:

That makes more sense and rings a lot of bells.

ROBCamra
26-01-2011, 16:35
The arbitary bit is the number of units per week or per session the health facists recommend. This is actually a number plucked from the air as an arse covering exercise by "experts" put on the spot by some health minister many years ago. it is not based on serious research or put in more technical terms, it's utter bollox. :mad:
:D.

You need to tell your doctor that you're German.

Their arbitrary limit set by their health facists is 34 units.

Just shows what a loads of old bollocks it is. :moremad:

oldboots
26-01-2011, 16:40
You need to tell your doctor that you're German.

I thought the place of birth on my records was a dead giveaway for "ra boozin"..................Glasgow :cheers:.

(that is a hauf n hauf symbol isn't it?)

Conrad
26-01-2011, 16:43
I thought the place of birth on my records was a dead giveaway for "ra boozin"..................Glasgow :cheers:.

(that is a hauf n hauf symbol isn't it?)
And to take us full circle are you planning to claim your free measuring glass ;)

oldboots
26-01-2011, 17:58
And to take us full circle are you planning to claim your free measuring glass ;)

I thought the place of birth on my records was a dead giveaway.... if it's free I'll have it

runningdog
26-01-2011, 18:20
When I said to my nosey doc' I averaged 15 pints a week he reckoned that was 30 units and I was a binge drinker, I didn't have the heart to worry the poor chap by telling him the actual number of units was a lot higher :D.

I like my quack, he and I share the occasional pint in a local hostelry. When I was put on a permanant, quite high, dose of Warfarin he asked me how much I drank on weekly basis, I said, accurately most like, too much. His only comment was ' Okay, just don't suddenly change anything'.
And I never have:whistle:..........:drinkup::drinkup::drinkup:

Strongers
26-01-2011, 23:10
The figure plucked out of the air for men is now 28 units which is 2 pints of weak beer a day. I told my doctor that I drank the average weekly allowance – I just didn’t tell him that it was on Tuesday night!!!