Euston Tap - interesting new pub for you

[Quinno]

http://www.eustontap.com (http://www.eustontap.com/)

Opens November 5th

The Euston Tap is an intimate dining and drinking establishment that offers a selection of rare craft beers and real ales paired with snacks prepared by the Fleet River Bakery.

Apparently opposite Euston station

I'll get it listed now...

West Lodge,
190 Euston Road,
Euston,
London,
NW1 2EF

(020) 7387 2890

[Strongers]

Another CASK Pub and Kitchen?

[hondo]

http://www.remotegoat.co.uk/venue_view.php?uid=38844

[Strongers]

I’ve just read that link and I’ve now got visions of a rotund bearded man in sandals dragging a couple of empty barrels through a Bavarian forest on his quest to find some holy ale.

[Millay]

http://www.eustontap.com (http://www.eustontap.com/)

Opens November 5th

The Euston Tap is an intimate dining and drinking establishment that offers a selection of rare craft beers and real ales paired with snacks prepared by the Fleet River Bakery.

Apparently opposite Euston station

I'll get it listed now...

West Lodge,
190 Euston Road,
Euston,
London,
NW1 2EF

(020) 7387 2890

This is certainly of interest to me as I travel home from Euston. Trying to work out where it is but unsure. Grade II listed and mention of West Lodge made me think it could be the bar that used to be in one of the arches/gatehouses by the bus station outside Euston. This used to be called something like the Glass House and was a women only private club that closed down a year or so ago. But if they’re claiming 20 draft beers I can’t see that it would be large enough. I’ll keep ‘em peeled. It would certainly add something to an area where we have the Doric Arch and the Bree Louise.

[Strongers]

Glass Bar and the address was 190 Euston Road.

[Bucking Fastard]

It would certainly add something to an area where we have the Doric Arch and the Bree Louise.

Very good point,this is going to be a great area for a mini crawl.Sounds like there will be a race to get the first review in.

Thanks Quinno for the heads up.

[Millay]

Glass Bar and the address was 190 Euston Road.

Probably is that one then. It's located next to the gardens near a war memorial where the buses turn in and out of Euston station.

[gillhalfpint]

We are having a day in London when we travel down for the Pigs Ear festival, so will have a look.

We did Brie Louise and Doric Arch along with a few others that get a mention here, Cask Pub and Kitchen, Rake, Wheatsheaf, Old Fountain, Market Porter, Wenlock Arms, and the Brodie pub King William I think. Will be aiming to do the same run round again, and add the Brew Wharf in, so may as well do this one too. A good day looming probably Wed 1.12.10.

[hondo]

397

http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz_photos/sz1yR_RHGhWEg8L69GALCg?select=D9-OgVw6R4z96tU6-q3F8A

http://www.rainbownetwork.com/UserPortal/Article/Detail.aspx?ID=12315&sid=74

http://www.theglassbar.org.uk/index.html

[trainman]

I had a look at this gatehouse when passing through on way back from Nottingham. Was a little surprised to find no signage, no posters, no any indication at all of an impending bar opening that is not too distant.

I did, however, write to the e-mail addr on one of the above links and have just received this reply...

We are not releasing the beer list until we open, I can say their(sic) will be 8 real ales and 19 world beers on draft. The bottle range will take extracts from the Sheffield selection and develop them further.

The venue is two floors and should hold around 80 people.

Regards
Yan D Pilkington
Euston & Sheffield Tap

I would think that even 80 people in a building with this square footage could make the venue feel a little 'cosy'.

[trainman]

I was just trying to remember the opening date, and find it was yesterday!
Any of our intrepid PuGgers in the area last night?

If not, while searching for this thread I also found this from PB...

http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/showthread.php?4524-Pete-Brown-s-Beer-Blog-Exclusive-the-Euston-Tap-A-Sneak-Preview&highlight=euston

[Millay]

I was just trying to remember the opening date, and find it was yesterday!
Any of our intrepid PuGgers in the area last night?

Of course ;)

I noticed a crowd outside when I went past last night so of course I called in, and yes it was opening night, so absolutely packed. I'd had a few already so didn't really do the place justice, just had a half before heading for the Doric Arch and a couple of Bengal Lancers. But what a half it was, Thornbridge Bracia, which someone told me was a very rare brew, first time in cask and only a few casks available, so I felt quite honoured. Spotted it was 9% so in my drunken state I thought it would be a good idea. The £3.80 price tag was a bit steep especially when I realised that was for a half :eek:, at £7.60 a pint the stuff must be rare. It was very good although a little sweet and cloying, very much a sipping beer. Generally the beers were reasonably priced.

There are no pumps on the bar, everything is on the wall behind, loads of cask and draught beers plus two massive fridges each side of the bar filled with bottles. There's a winding iron staircase which is a bit of a nightmare, especially as it's impossible to pass anyone on it, certainly someone my size. There's no bar upstairs which means you have to negotiate the stairs with beer in hand. I think it might be a good idea to put another fridge up there with some bottles.

I'll definitely have another look, preferably when I'm a bit more sober and when it's less busy and I can have a proper look around.

[Grailhunter]

The £3.80 price tag was a bit steep especially when I realised that was for a half :eek:, at £7.60 a pint the stuff must be rare.

Well I think that must qualify as the most expensive pint in the country !

[Conrad]

Well I think that must qualify as the most expensive pint in the country !
I am reminded of Hopwas pub crawl of London, and offer it as contradiction (http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/showthread.php?945-London-Day-Trip-%2825-01-10%29-PART-ONE&p=5883#post5883). ;)

[Maldenman]

Well I think that must qualify as the most expensive pint in the country !

Not so! I popped by on Saturday and they had a porter on at £8 a pint!

Just read Conrad's post and the link to Hopwas' London crawl, and I'm more shocked by Hoppy getting a cab from Leicester Square to Covent Garden! Bet that cost more than his pint in The Green Man.

[Spinko]

Well I think that must qualify as the most expensive pint in the country !

I paid £5 for a half of an American triple IPA in North Bar in Leeds in early September. And it was well worth it! I'll remember the name shortly...

[gillhalfpint]

Some other reports on the Euston Tap say that asking for a beer to be topped up wasn't well received when the glass only had about quarter pint in it. They had a few other opening night problems, but we will still look in when we go for our day trip after Pigs Ear.

[Conrad]

Well I read Pete Brown's blog (http://petebrown.blogspot.com/2010/11/real-ale-preference-or-dogma.html) as it mentioned Euston Tap, and instead stumbled into an interesting debate about Real Ale and Cask Breathers.

[Wittenden]

Well I read Pete Brown's blog (http://petebrown.blogspot.com/2010/11/real-ale-preference-or-dogma.html) as it mentioned Euston Tap, and instead stumbled into an interesting debate about Real Ale and Cask Breathers.

Yes, I've just read this post-I don't usually look at Pete Brown's blog, because the typeface-white on black plays havock with the old specks. Lame excuse.
I've been wondering about the proliferation of "craft" beers being served via Keg.I'm old enough to remember how unspeakably foul the likes of Whitbread Tankard and Watneys Red Barrel were, so I'm loath to spend my hard earned beer money on something that might transport me back to the 70's. (Though knowing what I know now...)On a technical front, has the mechanics of kegging developed to such an extent that the beer isn't ruined?
Our freinds in the US seem to be able to produce "quality" beers that thrive in a keg, though I can't speak from experience.
I don't say that I'd never drink a kegged "ale", but I'd need a fair bit of persuasion.For me, a decent English beer, served straight from the cask-OK, sparkled in Yorkshire,takes one hell of a lot of beating.
I can't get worked up over cask breathers,as mentionned on the blog, but lord save us from top pressure!- Now that really ruined some great ales back in the early days.

[Conrad]

At this point I would be remiss if I didn't point out that we reproduce his blog (http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/showthread.php?4586-Pete-Brown-s-Beer-Blog-Real-Ale-Preference-or-Dogma) in our Blog Tracker forum (http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?12-Blog-Tracker).

It doesn't give him the traffic, and sometimes will not look correct, but it is at least black on white if that is the issue.

[oldboots]

At this point I would be remiss if I didn't point out that we reproduce his blog (http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/showthread.php?4586-Pete-Brown-s-Beer-Blog-Real-Ale-Preference-or-Dogma) in our Blog Tracker forum (http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?12-Blog-Tracker).

It doesn't give him the traffic, and sometimes will not look correct, but it is at least black on white if that is the issue.

Much easier to read and no judder when you scroll, Pencil and Spoon is bad for judder as well, too many fancy graphics and stuff; I fear.

[an_ecumenical_matter]

Visited on the 30th and found the place to be quite good,only after we found the place!!! Good to catch up with Millay again.

[gillhalfpint]

It is an interesting building. We called in on 23rd and found about 15 continental beers on tap and if I remember right, 8 UK beers. Bristol Beer Factory Stout 4% was not as good as their 4.5% Milk Stout, but wish we had been around the following week when their Ultimate Stout 7.3% was apparantly on. The other we tried was Thornbridge Merrie 5.9%.

There are no toilets in the building. A portaloo (I was told it was not the cleanest of places) outside for the gents and nothing for the ladies when we were there, but it is a good stop off for the odd one or two.

[RogerB]

There are no toilets in the building. A portaloo (I was told it was not the cleanest of places) outside for the gents and nothing for the ladies when we were there.

Is that legal?

[trainman]

There are no toilets in the building. A portaloo (I was told it was not the cleanest of places) outside for the gents and nothing for the ladies.


Is that legal?

Unless it was out-of-order, there is a single loo upstairs. Most inadequate, but I was unaware of an adjacent portaloo - surely not something that can be seen as a long-term solution next to this attractive (at least externally) gatehouse?

[Maldenman]

My professional view is that the provision of a single WC in a licensed premises is inadequate and contrary to the requirements of BS 6265 which deals with the provision of sanitary accommodation in different types of buildings. There should be seperate M/F facilities and with a capacity of less than 150 that would be one male WC, three female WCs, one additional urinal and handbasins to suit, ie 2 male, 3 female.
The pub is also taking a chance if a suitable disabled person's WC is not provided as a service provider is supposed to ensure adequate facilities under the Disability Discrimination Act.

[Millay]

Visited on the 30th and found the place to be quite good,only after we found the place!!! Good to catch up with Millay again.

Indeed, it was a nice surprise to bump into you again a_e_m, especially on your inaugural Euston Tap visit. Hope you got your train connection back OK.


Bristol Beer Factory Stout 4% was not as good as their 4.5% Milk Stout, but wish we had been around the following week when their Ultimate Stout 7.3% was apparantly on. The other we tried was Thornbridge Merrie 5.9%.


The Ultimate Stout did arrive and was very tasty, as was the Thornbridge Merrie. With the strength of some of the beers in there I tend to stick to halves and try as many as I can.



Unless it was out-of-order, there is a single loo upstairs. Most inadequate, but I was unaware of an adjacent portaloo - surely not something that can be seen as a long-term solution next to this attractive (at least externally) gatehouse?

Yes, the single unisex loo is still there but you do face the 'staircase challenge' to get there. The outside portaloo has only been there a couple of weeks I think and they do refer to it as a 'Gents urinal' rather than a proper toilet. Not sure if this was a result of customer complaints or some regulatory visitors. It's not an ideal situation but let's hope this innovative new bar isn't scuppered by the Health & Safety Police.

[gillhalfpint]

The gents portaloo did not flush, there was no water to wash hands, and did not look very hygenic inside. It was the week of sub zero temperatures, so maybe portaloo had frozen up.

I would not like to see it closing though as it is a great use for the building.

[Spinko]

Moaning minnies ahoy!

[Quinno]

Moaning minnies ahoy!

not sure how much of a sarcasm hat you're wearing there Stu, but having toilets that a) flush; and b) are relatively accessible

...are surely essentials in 2011 in a building (listed?) that has been adapted for new use?

Disability-wise, does this new use of a building fall under the DDA (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsAndObligations/DisabilityRights/DG_4001068)? Should be loos in there for the disabled...?

I have an ale-drinking friend who finds herself in a wheelchair after DVT on a long-haul flight, so can readily empathise with those who cannot find things as straightforward as you and I do.

[Millay]

Disability-wise, does this new use of a building fall under the DDA (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsAndObligations/DisabilityRights/DG_4001068)? Should be loos in there for the disabled...?

Without wishing to understate the plight of those less fortunate, I can't imagine that the DDA legally requires all pubs and bars to have toilets that are fully accessible to, for example, wheelchair users. It's just not practical in some older buildings, and the Euston Tap is typical in that respect.

If we look at the closest other pub, the Doric Arch, the toilets are two flights of stairs down from the bar, through a narrow door which is locked with a code. If the DDA does make this a legal requirement then surely half the pubs in London (most having toilets up or down stairs) would be trading outside the law. The Harp is one that comes immediately to mind.

[Maldenman]

The DDA does not have any requirements beyond service providers having to make their service whatever that is, to be accessible. What constitutes accessible is open to the interpretation of a judge and until sufficient case law develops it is impossible to say how the law will stand on existing buildings that are inaccessible due to the time they were built or the geography of the site. Some service providers can get around the issue by delivering their service in another way, eg mobile hairdressers but it is difficult to see how pubs could do this.

[Quinno]

The DDA does not have any requirements beyond service providers having to make their service whatever that is, to be accessible. What constitutes accessible is open to the interpretation of a judge and until sufficient case law develops it is impossible to say how the law will stand on existing buildings that are inaccessible due to the time they were built or the geography of the site. Some service providers can get around the issue by delivering their service in another way, eg mobile hairdressers but it is difficult to see how pubs could do this.

I think that answers my question :)

[gillhalfpint]

The Euston Tap site on here does say in some reviews that there is a toilet upstairs. It may be that we were unfortunate on the day we were there, and maybe the subzero temperatures had put it out of order and the portaloo had been brought in for gents. Not being local means I don't know what is usual there. Only reflected on what we found, a great little pub that was quirky and good luck to it. We will certainly have a look in again next time we are down that way.

[Conrad]

I wouldn't be able to cope in a pub without easy toilet access. As I have said before I frequently wonder if I should just take my pint to the toilet and pour it down the urinal to save time (although clearly also save enjoyment).

[hondo]

http://www.beerpages.co.uk/protz/features/tim-anderson-masterchef.htm