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“What are the best places to find stout in central London?” asks Stuart via Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/boakandbailey). It’s a good question.
London is strongly associated, historically, with porter and stout but these days it’s hard to find, apart from Guinness which is, of course, almost everywhere.
Anthony Gladman recently wrote about the resurgence in London porter (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2021/10/14/back-in-black-how-londons-contemporary-brewers-are-reclaiming-the-citys-porter-tradition) for Good Beer Hunting. That’s worth a read if you want to understand the broader context. It’s interesting how few examples he was actually able to point too, though.
Some that were around a decade or so ago have all but disappeared, too, such as Meantime and Fuller’s. The latter is a bottle-only product these days – and even so, rarely seen in pubs.
On our recent tour of classic London pubs we didn’t notice much dark beer on offer at all.
The Sutton Arms had a dark lager; The Carpenter’s Arms was all bitter and golden ale; and The Pride of Spitalfields had nothing darker than Fuller’s ESB.
We know that The Pembury Tavern, one of our favourite pubs in London, always seems to have Railway Porter, one of our favourite dark beers, on cask. But it’s hardly central.
Bristol brewery Moor has a very good straight-up cask stout called, uh, Stout, which seems to be regularly available at their London taproom (https://www.moorbeer.co.uk/vaults). Bermondsey is a bit easier to get to but still not central, though.
The Royal Oak at Borough, still maybe the best pub in London, full stop, had Harvey’s wonderful porter on cask when we visited a couple of weeks ago. If not that, there are always bottles of Harvey’s wonderfully funky Imperial Stout behind the bar. We think this counts as central, even if it’s not West End.
Samuel Smith pubs, of which there are many in London (https://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?action=index;format=map;cat=samuel%20smit h%27s), have an own-brand Guinness clone that’s we’ve always enjoyed. They may also have bottles of Oatmeal Stout, Taddy Porter and Imperial Stout in the fridge – but at a premium.
Anspach & Hobday also have London Black which they call an “independent nitro porter” with a handy map showing all the pubs that serve it (https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1itrgts_kqfChywPjQ6oCrdrNnLV0vNhe&ll=51.50764029850145%2C-0.047768292585589345&z=12). There are quite a few in central London.
In general, visiting pubs with wider-than-usual beer ranges will probably pay off, especially in autumn and winter. Cask in Pimlico, for example, or The King’s Arms in Bethnal Green. If there’s going to be a guest stout or seasonal porter, this is when and where you’ll find it.
If you know of a London pub that always has porter or stout on offer, let us know in the comments below. https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/2b07.pnghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/2b07.pnghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/2b07.png
Does Britain do regional styles?Stuart also asked a related question: “Can you visit a city and find places that specialise in a particular style of beer? What does this say about the UK if we don’t have the same definable geographic association as German cities?”
What immediately sprang to mind for us was Midlands mild country, highlighted memorably by Robbie Pickering many years ago (https://refreshingbeer.blogspot.com/2014/07/englands-franconia.html).
We recently revisited The Great Western at Wolverhampton where there was not only cask mild but also a choice of the hyper-local light golden ale style, from both Batham’s and Holden’s.
And down in the West Country there’s maybe an argument to say heavy, brown, sweetish ales are a thing – Blue Anchor Spingo, St Austell HSD, and a few others.
“London murky” (another Robbie Pickering contribution) almost became something but that now seems universal. It’s certainly the dominant style in Bristol.
But, yes, Stuart’s right: beyond that, it’s hard to say “Oh, you must go to city X which specialises in beer style Y.” Perhaps Britain is just too small to carry it off.
Or maybe we’re wrong. Are there living beer styles you associate strongly with a particular UK town, city or region?
Finding stout and porter in London (https://boakandbailey.com/2022/09/finding-stout-and-porter-in-london/) originally posted at Boak & Bailey's Beer Blog (https://boakandbailey.com)
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“What are the best places to find stout in central London?” asks Stuart via Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/boakandbailey). It’s a good question.
London is strongly associated, historically, with porter and stout but these days it’s hard to find, apart from Guinness which is, of course, almost everywhere.
Anthony Gladman recently wrote about the resurgence in London porter (https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2021/10/14/back-in-black-how-londons-contemporary-brewers-are-reclaiming-the-citys-porter-tradition) for Good Beer Hunting. That’s worth a read if you want to understand the broader context. It’s interesting how few examples he was actually able to point too, though.
Some that were around a decade or so ago have all but disappeared, too, such as Meantime and Fuller’s. The latter is a bottle-only product these days – and even so, rarely seen in pubs.
On our recent tour of classic London pubs we didn’t notice much dark beer on offer at all.
The Sutton Arms had a dark lager; The Carpenter’s Arms was all bitter and golden ale; and The Pride of Spitalfields had nothing darker than Fuller’s ESB.
We know that The Pembury Tavern, one of our favourite pubs in London, always seems to have Railway Porter, one of our favourite dark beers, on cask. But it’s hardly central.
Bristol brewery Moor has a very good straight-up cask stout called, uh, Stout, which seems to be regularly available at their London taproom (https://www.moorbeer.co.uk/vaults). Bermondsey is a bit easier to get to but still not central, though.
The Royal Oak at Borough, still maybe the best pub in London, full stop, had Harvey’s wonderful porter on cask when we visited a couple of weeks ago. If not that, there are always bottles of Harvey’s wonderfully funky Imperial Stout behind the bar. We think this counts as central, even if it’s not West End.
Samuel Smith pubs, of which there are many in London (https://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?action=index;format=map;cat=samuel%20smit h%27s), have an own-brand Guinness clone that’s we’ve always enjoyed. They may also have bottles of Oatmeal Stout, Taddy Porter and Imperial Stout in the fridge – but at a premium.
Anspach & Hobday also have London Black which they call an “independent nitro porter” with a handy map showing all the pubs that serve it (https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1itrgts_kqfChywPjQ6oCrdrNnLV0vNhe&ll=51.50764029850145%2C-0.047768292585589345&z=12). There are quite a few in central London.
In general, visiting pubs with wider-than-usual beer ranges will probably pay off, especially in autumn and winter. Cask in Pimlico, for example, or The King’s Arms in Bethnal Green. If there’s going to be a guest stout or seasonal porter, this is when and where you’ll find it.
If you know of a London pub that always has porter or stout on offer, let us know in the comments below. https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/2b07.pnghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/2b07.pnghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/2b07.png
Does Britain do regional styles?Stuart also asked a related question: “Can you visit a city and find places that specialise in a particular style of beer? What does this say about the UK if we don’t have the same definable geographic association as German cities?”
What immediately sprang to mind for us was Midlands mild country, highlighted memorably by Robbie Pickering many years ago (https://refreshingbeer.blogspot.com/2014/07/englands-franconia.html).
We recently revisited The Great Western at Wolverhampton where there was not only cask mild but also a choice of the hyper-local light golden ale style, from both Batham’s and Holden’s.
And down in the West Country there’s maybe an argument to say heavy, brown, sweetish ales are a thing – Blue Anchor Spingo, St Austell HSD, and a few others.
“London murky” (another Robbie Pickering contribution) almost became something but that now seems universal. It’s certainly the dominant style in Bristol.
But, yes, Stuart’s right: beyond that, it’s hard to say “Oh, you must go to city X which specialises in beer style Y.” Perhaps Britain is just too small to carry it off.
Or maybe we’re wrong. Are there living beer styles you associate strongly with a particular UK town, city or region?
Finding stout and porter in London (https://boakandbailey.com/2022/09/finding-stout-and-porter-in-london/) originally posted at Boak & Bailey's Beer Blog (https://boakandbailey.com)
More... (https://boakandbailey.com/2022/09/finding-stout-and-porter-in-london/)