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Here's the second part of my look at Imperial Stout in the 1880s. But, this time, specifically ones on sale in Scotland. All details have been taken from advertisements in Scottish newspapers. The British Newspaper Archive is such a useful resource.
This bunch is even more dominated by London brewers. Only one is definitely from elsewhere: Guinness. Plus one whose origin in uncertain, Yule. That being the name of the retailer who was presumably selling a brewer's Imperial Stout under their own name.
I was interested to see Reid popping up as well as their later partners Combe. It looks as if Reid had pulled out of the Scottish market - or at least stopped advertising - by 1900. I wonder why that was.
Based on the prices, there's a variation in strength here, too. The only ones which look too be the full Imperial strength are those selling for 2s 9d and 3s per reputed pint. Which equates to 4.1d and 4.75d per imperial pint. Those costing 2s 2d and 2s 3d (3.25d and 3.375d per Imperial pint couldn't have an OG of 1075º-1080º. Not quite as weak as some of the draught versions, but still well off Imperial Stout strength and more like a Double Stout.
I'm pretty sure that Guinness didn't brew a Stout stronger than Extra Stout or Foreign Extra Stout, both of which had an OG of 1075º. Which fits in neatly with the price of 2.25d per reputed pint. I can't remember seeing Guinness Extra Stout sold as Imperial Stout in England. I wonder why it was in Scotland?
Don't get the impression no-one in Scotland was brewing the style. I just couldn't find any adverts which included prices. For example, Devanha of Aberdeen advertised their own Imperial Stout.
Bottled Imperial Stout sold in Scotland 1880 - 1889
year
Brewery
Place
beer
price (per doz)
size
1880
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
6s
reputed quart
1880
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
3s
reputed pint
1880
Truman
London
XXX or Imperial Stout
6s
reputed quart
1880
Truman
London
XXX or Imperial Stout
3s
reputed pint
1883
Barclay Perkins
London
Imperial London Stout
2s 2d
reputed pint
1883
Combe
London
Imperial London Stout
2s 2d
reputed pint
1885
Barclay Perkins
London
Imperial Stout
2s 9d
reputed pint
1885
Guinness
Dublin
Imperial Stout
2s 3d
reputed pint
1885
Truman
London
Imperial Stout
2s 9d
reputed pint
1885
Unknown
London
Imperial Stout
3s
reputed pint
1886
Combe
London
Imperial or XXX Stout
2s 9d
reputed pint
1886
Unknown
London
Imperial XXX London Stout
2s 6d
reputed pint
1888
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
5s
bottle
1888
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
2s 7d
half bottle
1888
Yule
??
Imperial Stout
2s 2d
reputed pint
1889
A. Gordon & Co.
London
Imperial Stout
4s 6d
pint
Sources:
Elgin Courant, and Morayshire Advertiser - Friday 06 February 1880, page 1.
Dundee Weekly News - Saturday 22 December 1883, page 8.
East of Fife Record - Friday 25 September 1885, page 1.
Stirling Observer - Thursday 24 December 1885, page 1.
East of Fife Record - Friday 25 September 1885, page 1.
East of Fife Record - Friday 20 July 1883, page 1.
East of Fife Record - Friday 12 November 1886 page 1.
Dundee Courier - Tuesday 12 January 1886, page 1.
Leith Burghs Pilot - Saturday 01 December 1888, page 1.
Aberdeen Evening Express - Thursday 08 March 1888, page 1.
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Here's the second part of my look at Imperial Stout in the 1880s. But, this time, specifically ones on sale in Scotland. All details have been taken from advertisements in Scottish newspapers. The British Newspaper Archive is such a useful resource.
This bunch is even more dominated by London brewers. Only one is definitely from elsewhere: Guinness. Plus one whose origin in uncertain, Yule. That being the name of the retailer who was presumably selling a brewer's Imperial Stout under their own name.
I was interested to see Reid popping up as well as their later partners Combe. It looks as if Reid had pulled out of the Scottish market - or at least stopped advertising - by 1900. I wonder why that was.
Based on the prices, there's a variation in strength here, too. The only ones which look too be the full Imperial strength are those selling for 2s 9d and 3s per reputed pint. Which equates to 4.1d and 4.75d per imperial pint. Those costing 2s 2d and 2s 3d (3.25d and 3.375d per Imperial pint couldn't have an OG of 1075º-1080º. Not quite as weak as some of the draught versions, but still well off Imperial Stout strength and more like a Double Stout.
I'm pretty sure that Guinness didn't brew a Stout stronger than Extra Stout or Foreign Extra Stout, both of which had an OG of 1075º. Which fits in neatly with the price of 2.25d per reputed pint. I can't remember seeing Guinness Extra Stout sold as Imperial Stout in England. I wonder why it was in Scotland?
Don't get the impression no-one in Scotland was brewing the style. I just couldn't find any adverts which included prices. For example, Devanha of Aberdeen advertised their own Imperial Stout.
Bottled Imperial Stout sold in Scotland 1880 - 1889
year
Brewery
Place
beer
price (per doz)
size
1880
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
6s
reputed quart
1880
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
3s
reputed pint
1880
Truman
London
XXX or Imperial Stout
6s
reputed quart
1880
Truman
London
XXX or Imperial Stout
3s
reputed pint
1883
Barclay Perkins
London
Imperial London Stout
2s 2d
reputed pint
1883
Combe
London
Imperial London Stout
2s 2d
reputed pint
1885
Barclay Perkins
London
Imperial Stout
2s 9d
reputed pint
1885
Guinness
Dublin
Imperial Stout
2s 3d
reputed pint
1885
Truman
London
Imperial Stout
2s 9d
reputed pint
1885
Unknown
London
Imperial Stout
3s
reputed pint
1886
Combe
London
Imperial or XXX Stout
2s 9d
reputed pint
1886
Unknown
London
Imperial XXX London Stout
2s 6d
reputed pint
1888
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
5s
bottle
1888
Reid
London
Imperial Stout
2s 7d
half bottle
1888
Yule
??
Imperial Stout
2s 2d
reputed pint
1889
A. Gordon & Co.
London
Imperial Stout
4s 6d
pint
Sources:
Elgin Courant, and Morayshire Advertiser - Friday 06 February 1880, page 1.
Dundee Weekly News - Saturday 22 December 1883, page 8.
East of Fife Record - Friday 25 September 1885, page 1.
Stirling Observer - Thursday 24 December 1885, page 1.
East of Fife Record - Friday 25 September 1885, page 1.
East of Fife Record - Friday 20 July 1883, page 1.
East of Fife Record - Friday 12 November 1886 page 1.
Dundee Courier - Tuesday 12 January 1886, page 1.
Leith Burghs Pilot - Saturday 01 December 1888, page 1.
Aberdeen Evening Express - Thursday 08 March 1888, page 1.
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