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I've completed another bit of my Imperial Stout research and thought I'd pester you with it.
I say finished, but the information here is information I'd already collected. The second part will be the new stuff. And will refer specifically to Imperial Stouts advertised in Scottish newspapers. While all of these were beers on sale in England.
Finding so many examples of draught Imperial Stout did rather surprise me. Even in the 19th century, it was a type of beer mostly found in bottled form.
More confirmation that Imperial Stout was a thing in London. Four of the nine examples in the table were brewed there. Though there are also two from Ireland. I'm not sure if that's how they were described within the brewery or for the Irish market.
Most don't look to be full Imperial Stout strength. Something like Barclay Perkins version, being about double the strength of their X Ale, you would expect to cost about double the 36 shilling price. So around 72 shillings. Only the Caffrey's beer gets anywhere near that.
60 shillings a barrel implies a beer of around 1090º, 54 shillings 1082º and 48 shillings just 1073º. The latter two look more like a Double Stout and a Single Stout, respectively. Clearly there was a very wide interpretation of what constituted and Imperial Stout.
Draught Imperial Stout 1880 - 1889
year
Brewery
Place
beer
price per barrel
price (per gallon)
1880
Bentley
Woodlesford, Yorkshire
Imperial Stout
54
18
1882
J Caffrey & Sons
Dublin
Dublin Imperial Stout
70
23.33
1882
Manns
London
London Imperial Stout
60
20
1882
Smithwick
Kilkenny
Imperial Export Stout
48
16
1885
Joseph Wyles & Co.
Bourn
IS Imperial Stout
48
16
1886
RH Jenner & Sons
London
IS Imperial Stout
58
19.33
1889
A. Gordon & Co.
London
IDS Imperial Double Stout
60
20
1889
Allsopp
Burton
Imperial Stout
60
20
1889
Wimbeldon Brewery
London
Imperial Double Stout IDS
56
18.67
Sources:
Various newspaper advertisements.
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I've completed another bit of my Imperial Stout research and thought I'd pester you with it.
I say finished, but the information here is information I'd already collected. The second part will be the new stuff. And will refer specifically to Imperial Stouts advertised in Scottish newspapers. While all of these were beers on sale in England.
Finding so many examples of draught Imperial Stout did rather surprise me. Even in the 19th century, it was a type of beer mostly found in bottled form.
More confirmation that Imperial Stout was a thing in London. Four of the nine examples in the table were brewed there. Though there are also two from Ireland. I'm not sure if that's how they were described within the brewery or for the Irish market.
Most don't look to be full Imperial Stout strength. Something like Barclay Perkins version, being about double the strength of their X Ale, you would expect to cost about double the 36 shilling price. So around 72 shillings. Only the Caffrey's beer gets anywhere near that.
60 shillings a barrel implies a beer of around 1090º, 54 shillings 1082º and 48 shillings just 1073º. The latter two look more like a Double Stout and a Single Stout, respectively. Clearly there was a very wide interpretation of what constituted and Imperial Stout.
Draught Imperial Stout 1880 - 1889
year
Brewery
Place
beer
price per barrel
price (per gallon)
1880
Bentley
Woodlesford, Yorkshire
Imperial Stout
54
18
1882
J Caffrey & Sons
Dublin
Dublin Imperial Stout
70
23.33
1882
Manns
London
London Imperial Stout
60
20
1882
Smithwick
Kilkenny
Imperial Export Stout
48
16
1885
Joseph Wyles & Co.
Bourn
IS Imperial Stout
48
16
1886
RH Jenner & Sons
London
IS Imperial Stout
58
19.33
1889
A. Gordon & Co.
London
IDS Imperial Double Stout
60
20
1889
Allsopp
Burton
Imperial Stout
60
20
1889
Wimbeldon Brewery
London
Imperial Double Stout IDS
56
18.67
Sources:
Various newspaper advertisements.
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