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When searching for early references to Dark Mild, one I stumbled upon was in a massive catalogue from William Whiteley Ltd., published in 1913. They billed themselves as "universal providers" and it's no exaggeration.
Bed linen, external blinds, marquees, saddles, furniture handles, mangles, hammers, dog collars, revolvers, model trains, cameras, Russian flags, salad dressing, ham, mushroom spawn, monkeys, coal and beer. In fact, if you want to know the price of just about anything in 1913, this is the place to look. The two volumes run over 1200 pages.
Obviously the beer bit interests me most. Quite a lot of beers are included, mostly draught, but also quite a few bottles.
There's this little notice at the start of the beer section to remind you of the idiocy of UK licensing laws:
"SPECIAL NOTICE.
Under the conditions of our Licence we cannot supply leas than 3 dozen Imperial Pints; 4 dozen Reputed Pints; 6 dozen Imperial Half-Pints of Bottled Ales and Stout. 2 dozen Reputed Quarts; 4 dozen Reputed Pints of Cyder.
Quantities can be made up, assorted, to suit our Customers' requirements."While in the revolver section there are no restrictions on sales.
It also claims: "Any Ale or Stout not quoted in these Lists can be procured at short notice." I'm not sure that's 100% true. I'm betting that they couldn't have got hold of the beer from a tint brewery in rural Scotland.
The bottled Stouts they had as regular offerings were mostly from the London area, with the exception of Usher, Allsopp and Guinness. They mostly look pretty weak, based on the price.
I've assumed that Whitbread Copper is their Porter, and Stout is London Stout. And that seems to tally with their strength. Draught Porter was 2d per pint and bottled beer sold at a premium. So 2s 6d a dozen (2.5d per pint) is about the cheapest you'd ever expect to see a beer described "Stout".
Guinness is probably the strongest beer in the list. And that wasn't super-strong for a Stout. There were much stronger ones. For example, Whitbread SS and SSS were 1086º and 1095º, respectively. At just 2d per pint, Whiteley's own brand Brown Stout must have been under 1050º.
Not sure why the Guinness bottled by M.H. Foster was more expensive. They must be the same beer, as Guinness only made Extra Stout and the export version Foreign Extra Stout.
Bottled Stouts in 1913
Brewery
Place
beer
price (per doz) Imperial pint
OG
Whiteley
London
Whiteley’s London Brown Stout
2s
Whiteley
London
Whiteley’s Nourishing Stout (specially selected)
2s 6d
Whitbread
London
Whitbread's Cooper
2s 4d
1053
Whitbread
London
Whitbread's Stout
2s 6d
1054
Usher
Devizes
Usher’s Court Luncheon Stout
2s 6d
Usher
Devizes
Usher's Oatmeal Stout
2s 6d
Watney, Combe, Reid
London
Reid's Stout
3s 6d
Watney, Combe, Reid
London
Reid's Invalid Stout
3s
Watney, Combe, Reid
London
Reid’s Family Stout
2s 6d
Sedgwick
Watford
Sedgwick's Stout
2s 6d
Fremlin
Maidstone
Fremlin’s Stout, Elephant Brand
2s 6d
Fremlin
Maidstone
Fremlin’s Oatmeal Stout
2s 6d
Allsopp
Burton
Allsopp’s Luncheon Stout
2s 6d
Waltham
London
Waltham’s Brown Stout
2s 6d
Waltham
London
Waltham's S. N. Stout
3s
Allsopp
Burton
Allsopp's Special Stout
3s 3d
Raggett
London
Raggett's Nourishing Stout
4s
Guinness
Dublin
Guinness’s Extra Double Stout
3s 4d
1074
Guinness
Dublin
Guinness’s Extra Stout (bottled M. H. Foster & Sons)
4s
1074
Sources:
William Whiteley General Price List October, 1913, Volume 2, page 1196.
Whitbread brewing record held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/09/107.
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001.
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When searching for early references to Dark Mild, one I stumbled upon was in a massive catalogue from William Whiteley Ltd., published in 1913. They billed themselves as "universal providers" and it's no exaggeration.
Bed linen, external blinds, marquees, saddles, furniture handles, mangles, hammers, dog collars, revolvers, model trains, cameras, Russian flags, salad dressing, ham, mushroom spawn, monkeys, coal and beer. In fact, if you want to know the price of just about anything in 1913, this is the place to look. The two volumes run over 1200 pages.
Obviously the beer bit interests me most. Quite a lot of beers are included, mostly draught, but also quite a few bottles.
There's this little notice at the start of the beer section to remind you of the idiocy of UK licensing laws:
"SPECIAL NOTICE.
Under the conditions of our Licence we cannot supply leas than 3 dozen Imperial Pints; 4 dozen Reputed Pints; 6 dozen Imperial Half-Pints of Bottled Ales and Stout. 2 dozen Reputed Quarts; 4 dozen Reputed Pints of Cyder.
Quantities can be made up, assorted, to suit our Customers' requirements."While in the revolver section there are no restrictions on sales.
It also claims: "Any Ale or Stout not quoted in these Lists can be procured at short notice." I'm not sure that's 100% true. I'm betting that they couldn't have got hold of the beer from a tint brewery in rural Scotland.
The bottled Stouts they had as regular offerings were mostly from the London area, with the exception of Usher, Allsopp and Guinness. They mostly look pretty weak, based on the price.
I've assumed that Whitbread Copper is their Porter, and Stout is London Stout. And that seems to tally with their strength. Draught Porter was 2d per pint and bottled beer sold at a premium. So 2s 6d a dozen (2.5d per pint) is about the cheapest you'd ever expect to see a beer described "Stout".
Guinness is probably the strongest beer in the list. And that wasn't super-strong for a Stout. There were much stronger ones. For example, Whitbread SS and SSS were 1086º and 1095º, respectively. At just 2d per pint, Whiteley's own brand Brown Stout must have been under 1050º.
Not sure why the Guinness bottled by M.H. Foster was more expensive. They must be the same beer, as Guinness only made Extra Stout and the export version Foreign Extra Stout.
Bottled Stouts in 1913
Brewery
Place
beer
price (per doz) Imperial pint
OG
Whiteley
London
Whiteley’s London Brown Stout
2s
Whiteley
London
Whiteley’s Nourishing Stout (specially selected)
2s 6d
Whitbread
London
Whitbread's Cooper
2s 4d
1053
Whitbread
London
Whitbread's Stout
2s 6d
1054
Usher
Devizes
Usher’s Court Luncheon Stout
2s 6d
Usher
Devizes
Usher's Oatmeal Stout
2s 6d
Watney, Combe, Reid
London
Reid's Stout
3s 6d
Watney, Combe, Reid
London
Reid's Invalid Stout
3s
Watney, Combe, Reid
London
Reid’s Family Stout
2s 6d
Sedgwick
Watford
Sedgwick's Stout
2s 6d
Fremlin
Maidstone
Fremlin’s Stout, Elephant Brand
2s 6d
Fremlin
Maidstone
Fremlin’s Oatmeal Stout
2s 6d
Allsopp
Burton
Allsopp’s Luncheon Stout
2s 6d
Waltham
London
Waltham’s Brown Stout
2s 6d
Waltham
London
Waltham's S. N. Stout
3s
Allsopp
Burton
Allsopp's Special Stout
3s 3d
Raggett
London
Raggett's Nourishing Stout
4s
Guinness
Dublin
Guinness’s Extra Double Stout
3s 4d
1074
Guinness
Dublin
Guinness’s Extra Stout (bottled M. H. Foster & Sons)
4s
1074
Sources:
William Whiteley General Price List October, 1913, Volume 2, page 1196.
Whitbread brewing record held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/09/107.
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001.
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