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It was recently pointed out to me that there was a strange omission in my book London! No reference to Youngs.
It came as a bit of a surprise to me. So I had a quick search through the book. True enough, there was no mention of Youngs. Other than a single analysis from 1953 of their Mild Ale. Which prompted some more digging.Unearthing a few more analyses. But not a huge amount.
I can see what the problem was. Whitbread didn't seem to have much interest in Youngs, despite then being a London rival. Meaning the Whitbread Gravity Book lists few of their beer. From before WW II, there's just a single analysis. It makes me realise just how dependent I am on the Whitbread Gravity Book.
Strange, though, that I'd written nothing from personal experience about the brewery. When I lived in South London back in the 1980s I was a frequent drinker of Youngs beers. A housemate was a big fan of theirs and used to drive me to lots of different Youngs pubs. Though one, the Railway Telegraph in Thornton Heath, was just a short walk away.
However, I have a confession: I always preferred Fullers over Youngs. Just liked the beers more. London Pride being my drink of choice. Or Hock, on the rare occasions I could track it down.
One reason I haven't used this set before, is the sketchiness of the data. For most, I only have and OG and a price. The exception being the one which came from the Whitbread Gravity Book.
Most of the analyses are for the weakest Mild, a 4d Ale. (Or 5d Ale as it was between 1931 and 1933 when the tax was higher.) There's also one for a stronger Mild, which looks like a 5d per pint beer.
Double Brown Stout and Burton Ale look like classic London examples of the styles. With gravities in the mid to high 1050ºs.
PA would, after hefty gravity cuts during WW II, become Ordinary Bitter. While Special, a beer around the same strength as pre-war PA, was a new beer introduced in the 1950s.
Young's beers between the wars
Year
Beer
Style
Price per pint
OG
FG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
1919
X Ale
Mild
4d
1027
1919
PA
Pale Ale
7d
1046
1919
Porter
Porter
6d
1039
1919
Double Brown Stout
Stout
8d
1054
1927
Ale
Mild
4d
1029.6
1930
Stout (bottled)
Stout
8d
1042.0
1931
Ale
Mild
4d
1036.0
1931
Ale
Mild
5d
1028.9
1932
Ale
Mild
5d
1030.1
1932
Ale
Mild
5d
1032.8
1933
XXX
Mild
1038
1933
PA
Pale Ale
1049
1933
Double Brown Stout
Stout
1053
1934
Burton Ale
Burton
8d
1058
1015
5.59
74.14%
Sources:
“Britain's Oldest Brewery” by Helen Osborn page 62
Truman Gravity Book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number B/THB/C/252.
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001.
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It was recently pointed out to me that there was a strange omission in my book London! No reference to Youngs.
It came as a bit of a surprise to me. So I had a quick search through the book. True enough, there was no mention of Youngs. Other than a single analysis from 1953 of their Mild Ale. Which prompted some more digging.Unearthing a few more analyses. But not a huge amount.
I can see what the problem was. Whitbread didn't seem to have much interest in Youngs, despite then being a London rival. Meaning the Whitbread Gravity Book lists few of their beer. From before WW II, there's just a single analysis. It makes me realise just how dependent I am on the Whitbread Gravity Book.
Strange, though, that I'd written nothing from personal experience about the brewery. When I lived in South London back in the 1980s I was a frequent drinker of Youngs beers. A housemate was a big fan of theirs and used to drive me to lots of different Youngs pubs. Though one, the Railway Telegraph in Thornton Heath, was just a short walk away.
However, I have a confession: I always preferred Fullers over Youngs. Just liked the beers more. London Pride being my drink of choice. Or Hock, on the rare occasions I could track it down.
One reason I haven't used this set before, is the sketchiness of the data. For most, I only have and OG and a price. The exception being the one which came from the Whitbread Gravity Book.
Most of the analyses are for the weakest Mild, a 4d Ale. (Or 5d Ale as it was between 1931 and 1933 when the tax was higher.) There's also one for a stronger Mild, which looks like a 5d per pint beer.
Double Brown Stout and Burton Ale look like classic London examples of the styles. With gravities in the mid to high 1050ºs.
PA would, after hefty gravity cuts during WW II, become Ordinary Bitter. While Special, a beer around the same strength as pre-war PA, was a new beer introduced in the 1950s.
Young's beers between the wars
Year
Beer
Style
Price per pint
OG
FG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
1919
X Ale
Mild
4d
1027
1919
PA
Pale Ale
7d
1046
1919
Porter
Porter
6d
1039
1919
Double Brown Stout
Stout
8d
1054
1927
Ale
Mild
4d
1029.6
1930
Stout (bottled)
Stout
8d
1042.0
1931
Ale
Mild
4d
1036.0
1931
Ale
Mild
5d
1028.9
1932
Ale
Mild
5d
1030.1
1932
Ale
Mild
5d
1032.8
1933
XXX
Mild
1038
1933
PA
Pale Ale
1049
1933
Double Brown Stout
Stout
1053
1934
Burton Ale
Burton
8d
1058
1015
5.59
74.14%
Sources:
“Britain's Oldest Brewery” by Helen Osborn page 62
Truman Gravity Book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number B/THB/C/252.
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001.
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