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I've found another good use of the word "traditional" to hide the author's total lack of historical knowledge. This is taken from an All About Beer article on Modern IPA, written by Rob Haiber.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_KM3SG2zI/AAAAAAAAGM0/799lj3fGvM0/s320/Barclay_Perkins_IPA.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_KM3SG2zI/AAAAAAAAGM0/799lj3fGvM0/s1600/Barclay_Perkins_IPA.jpg)"Right. India pale ales, commonly called IPAs, are a group with great pedigree and historic roots. By now, most beer lovers have heard about how traditional IPAs were brewed strong and extremely hoppy to survive long voyages to distant, God-forsaken heathen lands of the British Empire (and a rather large former colony), so let’s skip the rest of the history lesson and dive straight into the deep end.
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The closest thing to traditional British IPAs can now be found in North America. Good for Yanks, bad for Brits. North American craft brewers more closely adhere to early specification than do British brewers who, as a group, do not. That IPAs now thoroughly dominate this style has been acknowledged, in writing and in personal conversations, by practically every British beer judge, writer, and others thought expert in the field.
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Give me a break--3.5 percent ABV IPAs? That doesn’t even qualify as a bog-standard bitter. It’s enough to make a grown man cry--or scream. Have those brewers gone mad? Either they are ignorant of what an IPA really is, or their trying to pull a fast one on consumers. I think it’s getting near time to call in government investigators, as labeling a 3.5 percent ale an IPA crosses the line of consumer fraud. Slapping on a label with the words IPA on it does not make the beer an IPA."
http://www.allaboutbeer.com/style/modern_ipa.html
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_LSQFzSiI/AAAAAAAAGM8/_T1t9a32lBY/s320/Shipstone_India_Pale_Ale_1950.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_LSQFzSiI/AAAAAAAAGM8/_T1t9a32lBY/s1600/Shipstone_India_Pale_Ale_1950.jpg)Let's start with the first paragraph. "Traditional British IPAs" - what exactly are these? When were they brewed? 1830? 1880? 1920? He doesn't specify, making the whole paragraph totally meaningless. And does he mean Burton or London IPA, two very different things? I think it's been well-established that IPA's were not strong beers by the standards of the day.
Closest thing to a "traditional British IPA" is found in the USA? Bollocks. And which tradition does he mean? Greene King IPA is a perfect example of a low-gravity London-type IPA. A type of beer that has been brewed for 100 years or so. No, that's not "traditional;" because it's not what modern Americans think IPA should be. Anyone who thinks modern American IPA's resemble British IPAs of the 1840's knows nothing.
The last paragraph just demonstrates the author's total ignorance of beer history. What's he saying? "Greene King, don't dare call your beer IPA, even though you've brewed it for a century. We Americans decide what can and can't be called IPA." Arrogant twat.https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5445569787371915337-9088724273261024127?l=barclayperkins.blogspot.com
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I've found another good use of the word "traditional" to hide the author's total lack of historical knowledge. This is taken from an All About Beer article on Modern IPA, written by Rob Haiber.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_KM3SG2zI/AAAAAAAAGM0/799lj3fGvM0/s320/Barclay_Perkins_IPA.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_KM3SG2zI/AAAAAAAAGM0/799lj3fGvM0/s1600/Barclay_Perkins_IPA.jpg)"Right. India pale ales, commonly called IPAs, are a group with great pedigree and historic roots. By now, most beer lovers have heard about how traditional IPAs were brewed strong and extremely hoppy to survive long voyages to distant, God-forsaken heathen lands of the British Empire (and a rather large former colony), so let’s skip the rest of the history lesson and dive straight into the deep end.
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The closest thing to traditional British IPAs can now be found in North America. Good for Yanks, bad for Brits. North American craft brewers more closely adhere to early specification than do British brewers who, as a group, do not. That IPAs now thoroughly dominate this style has been acknowledged, in writing and in personal conversations, by practically every British beer judge, writer, and others thought expert in the field.
. . . .
Give me a break--3.5 percent ABV IPAs? That doesn’t even qualify as a bog-standard bitter. It’s enough to make a grown man cry--or scream. Have those brewers gone mad? Either they are ignorant of what an IPA really is, or their trying to pull a fast one on consumers. I think it’s getting near time to call in government investigators, as labeling a 3.5 percent ale an IPA crosses the line of consumer fraud. Slapping on a label with the words IPA on it does not make the beer an IPA."
http://www.allaboutbeer.com/style/modern_ipa.html
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_LSQFzSiI/AAAAAAAAGM8/_T1t9a32lBY/s320/Shipstone_India_Pale_Ale_1950.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CHrKKDU9290/Sw_LSQFzSiI/AAAAAAAAGM8/_T1t9a32lBY/s1600/Shipstone_India_Pale_Ale_1950.jpg)Let's start with the first paragraph. "Traditional British IPAs" - what exactly are these? When were they brewed? 1830? 1880? 1920? He doesn't specify, making the whole paragraph totally meaningless. And does he mean Burton or London IPA, two very different things? I think it's been well-established that IPA's were not strong beers by the standards of the day.
Closest thing to a "traditional British IPA" is found in the USA? Bollocks. And which tradition does he mean? Greene King IPA is a perfect example of a low-gravity London-type IPA. A type of beer that has been brewed for 100 years or so. No, that's not "traditional;" because it's not what modern Americans think IPA should be. Anyone who thinks modern American IPA's resemble British IPAs of the 1840's knows nothing.
The last paragraph just demonstrates the author's total ignorance of beer history. What's he saying? "Greene King, don't dare call your beer IPA, even though you've brewed it for a century. We Americans decide what can and can't be called IPA." Arrogant twat.https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5445569787371915337-9088724273261024127?l=barclayperkins.blogspot.com
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