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This is a totally unscheduled post. Something that sort of created itself out of a Facebook conversation.
It started when someone posted this John Smiths price list from 1971:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qP9ZpNvvGJ4/VadyjQbMEqI/AAAAAAAAX1U/ZFJcvRezsUM/s640/John_Smiths_1971.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qP9ZpNvvGJ4/VadyjQbMEqI/AAAAAAAAX1U/ZFJcvRezsUM/s1600/John_Smiths_1971.jpg)
I remembered that I had a wealth of analyses of John Smiths beers from the Whitbread Gravity Book.
John Smiths beers 1960 - 1967
Year
Beer
Style
Price
size
package
OG
FG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
colour
1960
Pale Ale (sold in Belgium)
Pale Ale
bottled
1055.5
1013.7
5.22
75.32%
17
1961
Golden Keg Ale
Pale Ale
22d to 24d
pint
draught
1039.1
1009
3.76
76.98%
19
1964
Double Brown
Brown Ale
24d
pint
bottled
1047.3
1016.7
3.82
64.69%
80
1964
Milk Maid Stout
Stout
16.5d
half pint
bottled
1042.2
1022.2
2.50
47.39%
325
1964
Golden Keg
Pale Ale
24d
pint
draught
1039.1
1009.4
3.71
75.96%
23
1964
Draught Magnet
Pale Ale
20d
pint
draught
1043
1007.4
4.45
82.79%
35
1964
Bitter
Pale Ale
18d
pint
draught
1038.3
1007.6
3.84
80.16%
23
1964
Mild Ale
Mild
15d
pint
draught
1030.9
1008.5
2.80
72.49%
30
1964
Magnet Pale Ale
Pale Ale
14.5d
half pint
bottled
1043.5
1007.2
4.54
83.45%
16
1964
Light Ale
Light Ale
10.5d
half pint
bottled
1031.9
1009.6
2.79
69.91%
29
1965
Pale Ale (sold in Belgium)
Pale Ale
bottled
1056.1
1011.8
5.54
78.97%
13
1967
Magnet Pale Ale
Pale Ale
24d
pint
draught
1043.5
1008.7
4.35
80.00%
33
Source:
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001.
There's a personal connection with one of these beers. Milk Maid Stout was a Warwick & Richardson brand. And the beer my Mum used to drink. The label appers prominently on the cover of The Home Brewer's Guide to Vintage Beer.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bFREQHU8lYQ/Vad12QZRxhI/AAAAAAAAX1g/rDTJ6arx4no/s640/Warwicks_Milk_Maid_Stout.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bFREQHU8lYQ/Vad12QZRxhI/AAAAAAAAX1g/rDTJ6arx4no/s1600/Warwicks_Milk_Maid_Stout.jpg)
There's not a huge difference between the prices in the two lists. Take Golden, for example. 24d = 10p, meaning it had gone up 4p between 1964 and 1971. But that would soon change. The early 1970's were a time of high inflation.
That's it. Just a pile of random crap. Oh, except one last thing. Golden and Bitter were probably the same beer. Not how much worse value the keg beer is.
More... (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2015/07/john-smiths-beers-1960-1967.html)
This is a totally unscheduled post. Something that sort of created itself out of a Facebook conversation.
It started when someone posted this John Smiths price list from 1971:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qP9ZpNvvGJ4/VadyjQbMEqI/AAAAAAAAX1U/ZFJcvRezsUM/s640/John_Smiths_1971.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qP9ZpNvvGJ4/VadyjQbMEqI/AAAAAAAAX1U/ZFJcvRezsUM/s1600/John_Smiths_1971.jpg)
I remembered that I had a wealth of analyses of John Smiths beers from the Whitbread Gravity Book.
John Smiths beers 1960 - 1967
Year
Beer
Style
Price
size
package
OG
FG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
colour
1960
Pale Ale (sold in Belgium)
Pale Ale
bottled
1055.5
1013.7
5.22
75.32%
17
1961
Golden Keg Ale
Pale Ale
22d to 24d
pint
draught
1039.1
1009
3.76
76.98%
19
1964
Double Brown
Brown Ale
24d
pint
bottled
1047.3
1016.7
3.82
64.69%
80
1964
Milk Maid Stout
Stout
16.5d
half pint
bottled
1042.2
1022.2
2.50
47.39%
325
1964
Golden Keg
Pale Ale
24d
pint
draught
1039.1
1009.4
3.71
75.96%
23
1964
Draught Magnet
Pale Ale
20d
pint
draught
1043
1007.4
4.45
82.79%
35
1964
Bitter
Pale Ale
18d
pint
draught
1038.3
1007.6
3.84
80.16%
23
1964
Mild Ale
Mild
15d
pint
draught
1030.9
1008.5
2.80
72.49%
30
1964
Magnet Pale Ale
Pale Ale
14.5d
half pint
bottled
1043.5
1007.2
4.54
83.45%
16
1964
Light Ale
Light Ale
10.5d
half pint
bottled
1031.9
1009.6
2.79
69.91%
29
1965
Pale Ale (sold in Belgium)
Pale Ale
bottled
1056.1
1011.8
5.54
78.97%
13
1967
Magnet Pale Ale
Pale Ale
24d
pint
draught
1043.5
1008.7
4.35
80.00%
33
Source:
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001.
There's a personal connection with one of these beers. Milk Maid Stout was a Warwick & Richardson brand. And the beer my Mum used to drink. The label appers prominently on the cover of The Home Brewer's Guide to Vintage Beer.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bFREQHU8lYQ/Vad12QZRxhI/AAAAAAAAX1g/rDTJ6arx4no/s640/Warwicks_Milk_Maid_Stout.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bFREQHU8lYQ/Vad12QZRxhI/AAAAAAAAX1g/rDTJ6arx4no/s1600/Warwicks_Milk_Maid_Stout.jpg)
There's not a huge difference between the prices in the two lists. Take Golden, for example. 24d = 10p, meaning it had gone up 4p between 1964 and 1971. But that would soon change. The early 1970's were a time of high inflation.
That's it. Just a pile of random crap. Oh, except one last thing. Golden and Bitter were probably the same beer. Not how much worse value the keg beer is.
More... (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2015/07/john-smiths-beers-1960-1967.html)