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That should have got your attention, German IPA.I'm not joking. I've got an example of a genuine 19th-century German IPA.
In reality this is just another of my dull posts that consists of little other than a table of numbers. It's amazing how I get away with so few words. Must be my animal charm. But there's so much more than just a German IPA in this table. There's a hatfull of other weird styles. Even I have no idea what half of them are. Dünnbier, Gewönliche Bier, Josty'sches Bier, Lebuser Bier. If you have any idea what the hell these might be, please let me know.
What's more surprising? How many top-fermenting styles there were in Germany or how little trace most have left? For me, it's the latter.
More German Top-fermenting beers
Year
Brewer
Beer
Style
Acidity
FG
OG
ABV
attenuation
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
5.29
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
3.83
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
4.36
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
3.93
1853
Zacherlbräu, München
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
1026.0
1076.1
6.50
65.83%
1849
Wiesbaden
Dünnbier
Dünnbier
3.58
1849
Rose, Jena
Gewönliche Bier
Gewönliche Bier
2.60
1849
Rose, Jena
Gewönliche Bier
Gewönliche Bier
2.35
1849
Ziegenhain
Gewönliche Bier
Gewönliche Bier
3.21
1850
Unknown
Quedlinburger Gose
Gose
0.85
1017.4
1044.9
3.56
60.25%
1890
Unknown
Goslarsche Gose
Gose
1020.0
1058.0
6.25
65.51%
1849
Wöllnitz
Gose?
Gose
3.04
1870
Unknown, Bremen
India Pale Ale
IPA
1014.4
1066.2
6.76
78.25%
1850
Unknown, Berlin
Josty'sches Bier
Josty'sches Bier
1010.1
1030.8
2.68
66.67%
1850
Unknown
Lebuser Bier
Lebuser Bier
1.19
1025.5
1039.4
1.77
34.31%
1849
Lichtenhain
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
3.59
1886
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
0.238
1016.6
1036.8
3.75
54.10%
1898
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
0.207
1007.7
1031.2
3.04
74.65%
1890
Unknown
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
1012.7
1043.3
3.96
70.66%
Sources:
"Chemie der menschlichen Nahrungs- und Genussmittel" by Joseph König, 1879, pages 147 - 158
“Archive der Pharmacie”, 1855, pages 216-217
"Handbuch der chemischen technologie" by Otto Dammer, Rudolf Kaiser, 1896, pages 696-697
"Bericht über die Entwickelung der chemischen Industrie während des letzten Jahrzehends" by August Wilhelm von Hofmann, 1877, page 382
Handwörterbuch der reinen und angewandten Chemie by Justus Liebig, Johann Christian Poggendorff, Friedrich Wöhler, 1858, page 1038
“Archive der Pharmacie”, 1855, pages 216-217
Wahl & Henius, pages 823-830
"Handbuch der chemischen technologie" by Otto Dammer, Rudolf Kaiser, 1896, pages 696-697
What else can I say? "Look how piss-weak most old German styles were".Yes, that'll do. Look how piss-weak most old German styles were. (Repetition. That's a good way of getting up my word count.)
I’d love to know more about that IPA from Bremen. Sadly, that single, bare analysis is all I have. Not to worry. Someone is bound to brew something with that name soon. Most likely in the USA. An IPA using German hops. That's a possibility. Or German Altbier yeast. The creativity of your modern brewer knows no bounds. As long as it doesn't involve coming up with something genuinely new.
Probably more of this crap tomorrow. Unless I can think of a proper topic. (Not much chance of that.)https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5445569787371915337-2108301307349704235?l=barclayperkins.blogspot.com
More... (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2010/04/german-ipa.html)
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That should have got your attention, German IPA.I'm not joking. I've got an example of a genuine 19th-century German IPA.
In reality this is just another of my dull posts that consists of little other than a table of numbers. It's amazing how I get away with so few words. Must be my animal charm. But there's so much more than just a German IPA in this table. There's a hatfull of other weird styles. Even I have no idea what half of them are. Dünnbier, Gewönliche Bier, Josty'sches Bier, Lebuser Bier. If you have any idea what the hell these might be, please let me know.
What's more surprising? How many top-fermenting styles there were in Germany or how little trace most have left? For me, it's the latter.
More German Top-fermenting beers
Year
Brewer
Beer
Style
Acidity
FG
OG
ABV
attenuation
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
5.29
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
3.83
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
4.36
1849
Wiesbaden
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
3.93
1853
Zacherlbräu, München
Doppelbier
Doppelbier
1026.0
1076.1
6.50
65.83%
1849
Wiesbaden
Dünnbier
Dünnbier
3.58
1849
Rose, Jena
Gewönliche Bier
Gewönliche Bier
2.60
1849
Rose, Jena
Gewönliche Bier
Gewönliche Bier
2.35
1849
Ziegenhain
Gewönliche Bier
Gewönliche Bier
3.21
1850
Unknown
Quedlinburger Gose
Gose
0.85
1017.4
1044.9
3.56
60.25%
1890
Unknown
Goslarsche Gose
Gose
1020.0
1058.0
6.25
65.51%
1849
Wöllnitz
Gose?
Gose
3.04
1870
Unknown, Bremen
India Pale Ale
IPA
1014.4
1066.2
6.76
78.25%
1850
Unknown, Berlin
Josty'sches Bier
Josty'sches Bier
1010.1
1030.8
2.68
66.67%
1850
Unknown
Lebuser Bier
Lebuser Bier
1.19
1025.5
1039.4
1.77
34.31%
1849
Lichtenhain
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
3.59
1886
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
0.238
1016.6
1036.8
3.75
54.10%
1898
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
0.207
1007.7
1031.2
3.04
74.65%
1890
Unknown
Lichtenhainer
Lichtenhainer
1012.7
1043.3
3.96
70.66%
Sources:
"Chemie der menschlichen Nahrungs- und Genussmittel" by Joseph König, 1879, pages 147 - 158
“Archive der Pharmacie”, 1855, pages 216-217
"Handbuch der chemischen technologie" by Otto Dammer, Rudolf Kaiser, 1896, pages 696-697
"Bericht über die Entwickelung der chemischen Industrie während des letzten Jahrzehends" by August Wilhelm von Hofmann, 1877, page 382
Handwörterbuch der reinen und angewandten Chemie by Justus Liebig, Johann Christian Poggendorff, Friedrich Wöhler, 1858, page 1038
“Archive der Pharmacie”, 1855, pages 216-217
Wahl & Henius, pages 823-830
"Handbuch der chemischen technologie" by Otto Dammer, Rudolf Kaiser, 1896, pages 696-697
What else can I say? "Look how piss-weak most old German styles were".Yes, that'll do. Look how piss-weak most old German styles were. (Repetition. That's a good way of getting up my word count.)
I’d love to know more about that IPA from Bremen. Sadly, that single, bare analysis is all I have. Not to worry. Someone is bound to brew something with that name soon. Most likely in the USA. An IPA using German hops. That's a possibility. Or German Altbier yeast. The creativity of your modern brewer knows no bounds. As long as it doesn't involve coming up with something genuinely new.
Probably more of this crap tomorrow. Unless I can think of a proper topic. (Not much chance of that.)https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5445569787371915337-2108301307349704235?l=barclayperkins.blogspot.com
More... (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2010/04/german-ipa.html)