Is the Add Pub feature working ?

[Gann]

Have added a couple of new pubs last week with photo's and reviews using the Add Pub feature from the home page.
I notice there's been a lot of opening and closing of pubs and adding of web links recently but no new pubs for a while.
So just checking is this function being seen ?

[ROBCamra]

Yes it is, but us monkeys don't have the power to do those. :p

Only Organ Grinder Dave has the permissions to add new pubs. :cheers:

[Dave M]

Apologies for the delays on new pubs, I went on holiday in early September and have been struggling to get back on track with the site since.

Impressively in the two weeks I was away the Penny Farthing in Dartford was submitted by six different users!

[Gann]

Many thanks Dave..

Was just a bit concerned there was a problem.. So thanks for the confirmation and hope you enjoyed the vacation....:glass:

[Dave M]

Thanks, I had a great time. Except for the endless pints of San Miguel

[Aqualung]

Impressively in the two weeks I was away the Penny Farthing in Dartford was submitted by six different users!

Is there no possible method of preventing this? The same could easily happen again with the Broken Drum and other micro-pubs, new Spoons and brewery taps.

[bcfczuluarmy]

Tempted to add the Penny Farthing Dartford for a 7th time...

[Rex_Rattus]

I see from the New Pubs sub-thread that at least two of us (and possibly more) have asked for the One Over The Ait pub to be added. Referring to Aqualung's posting above, does anyone know if there is a way to see what new pubs are pending (other than one's own as I know how to see those!) so that we can avoid going through the add pub process if someone else has already done it?

[ETA]

I was wondering whether it is working at all at the moment - nothing seems to have been added since 31 October, unless there is a problem with the activity page.

[ROBCamra]

Dave doesn't appear to be around at the moment. No idea why.:confused:

[Aqualung]

I was wondering whether it is working at all at the moment - nothing seems to have been added since 31 October, unless there is a problem with the activity page.

I've got one from October 23rd. It is a club but sells real ale, can be entered with a CAMRA membership card, has two beer festivals a year open to anyone and has a review and a picture. This is more than can be said for some of the Essex night clubs I've encountered on the site during the last week or so.

[bcfczuluarmy]

I have got a few outstanding since early November onwards. I only add open pubs so when you navigate through the submitted pubs weblink it's hard to ascertain how many new pubs can be getting added/missed, although a fair few closed ones get added to.

I'm also awaiting a closure that was ages old so I cancelled it and resubmitted and still not closed.

Liverpool Brewdog seems to have been added a fair few times by various members.

http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/newpubs/28263/ is actually just a new name for Cross Inn Avening (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/12843/) so that's a pointless waste of Dave's time too in clearing the backlog when a simple name change request can be submitted.

Currently about 200 pubs to be reviewed and added although a fair few duplicates of same pubs by same members and others.

[Rex_Rattus]

Currently about 200 pubs to be reviewed and added although a fair few duplicates of same pubs by same members and others.

How do you find this information? You mentioned a "submitted pubs weblink" - can you say where it is?

[Aqualung]

http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/newpubs/28263/ is actually just a new name for Cross Inn Avening (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/12843/) so that's a pointless waste of Dave's time too in clearing the backlog when a simple name change request can be submitted.


You and I know that but there are new reviewers and some older ones that as far as I know never look at these forums.
How could this new reviewer possibly know what she should have done?

[bcfczuluarmy]

How do you find this information? You mentioned a "submitted pubs weblink" - can you say where it is?

Start with adding http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/newpubs/28263/ in your web browser and just change the numbers (last 3 only really needed) until you get a 404 error which means the new pub number hasn't been added yet so you've got to the latest one suggested with the number previously entered assuming that makes sense. 28387/ was the latest new pub added so anything above will give new pubs but if you go down to 28200/ you'll be in the realm of approved new pubs so redirected to new weblink.

Have fun and spot the multiple Liverpool Brew Dog enteries playing with digits.

[Rex_Rattus]

In this case I don't think it's as difficult as you might suppose. The Queen Matilda Tavern is clearly not a new pub; one look at the photo of the Cross Inn makes that crystal clear and Carole Paish knows the pub as she has submitted some nice internal photographs with the only living being in them the pub cat. She may even be the new landlady. Having taken the trouble to access Pubs Galore do we suppose that she didn't bother to look at the Cross Inn page before going through the add pub process? The Cross Inn wasn't closed, so a search on "Avening" would have brought up the two pubs that are there. I reckon that the obvious place to look to change a pub's name is the "change details" button under the name. We know that the only thing you can do there is set up a location or close/open the pub, but it does say for any other changes go to the forum, and there's a link that takes you to the forum with "name changes" at the top of the list.

I guess the casual user might well conclude at that stage that it's too much of a fag to register for the forum just to change a name, and I can understand that. Obviously it would be better if there was a third "change name" button in the change details area, but I guess that falls in the "too difficult" category. Also, in the past I've had a bit of difficulty tracking down a closed pub, when it's re-opened under a new name. Now I'm more familiar with the search facilities (which I actually think are very good - they compare very favourably with WhatPub's) it's a lot easier, but I can readily see that a casual user might well fail to find the closed pub.

I think the process that bcfczuluarmy describes might help some of us from submitting new pubs that have already been submitted, although it seems very cumbersome and presumably not designed for that purpose. Of the three new pubs that I have pending (Kennington, Long Pond, One Over The Ait) the latter two had both already been submitted by two other regular users. So, this has all been useful to me at least.

[AlanH]

I was wondering whether it is working at all at the moment - nothing seems to have been added since 31 October, unless there is a problem with the activity page.

Even worse for closed pubs. I have one pending from 3rd July.

[sheffield hatter]

Even worse for closed pubs. I have one pending from 3rd July.

I think Dave may have put a hold on closed pubs. I know he was inundated with them at one time, and his view may be that the Closed Pubs website (http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/) is a more appropriate location for them. (This is just supposition, I have no idea if he has implemented this as a policy.)

[AlanH]

I think Dave may have put a hold on closed pubs. I know he was inundated with them at one time, and his view may be that the Closed Pubs website (http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/) is a more appropriate location for them. (This is just supposition, I have no idea if he has implemented this as a policy.)

It seems the "Closed Pubs Website" only deals with England. Mine is in Wales!

I would be sad to see the historical closed pubs not updated on PuG although I know some people don't like it (or are not bothered about it).

[AlanH]

Yes it is, but us monkeys don't have the power to do those. :p

Only Organ Grinder Dave has the permissions to add new pubs. :cheers:

The monkeys are doing an excellent job, so perhaps Dave should buy extra bananas and dish out more jobs!

[Blackthorn]

I think Dave may have put a hold on closed pubs. I know he was inundated with them at one time, and his view may be that the Closed Pubs website (http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/) is a more appropriate location for them. (This is just supposition, I have no idea if he has implemented this as a policy.)

The only problem with that is that I've got a pub that I added as closed as it was a new build that was not yet open. Consequently it now seems to be in limbo - not approved, perhaps becuase it's closed, but I can't see a way to mark it as open prior to approval.

[Al 10000]

Even worse for closed pubs. I have one pending from 3rd July.

I would'nt worry about that too much,i added two pubs with decent photos of them when they were up and running,with a review,one was added to the site on 28th Feb
the other on 1st March.

I have now given up adding my old pictures of pubs i did many years ago,because it seems they will never be added to the site,lots of nice photos of long lost pubs that will
now not be seen on this site.

[AlanH]

The only problem with that is that I've got a pub that I added as closed as it was a new build that was not yet open. Consequently it now seems to be in limbo - not approved, perhaps becuase it's closed, but I can't see a way to mark it as open prior to approval.

It could be resubmitted from scratch as open. The closed version is likely to be passed over and the open version added.

[oldboots]

I would'nt worry about that too much,i added two pubs with decent photos of them when they were up and running,with a review,one was added to the site on 28th Feb
the other on 1st March.

I have now given up adding my old pictures of pubs i did many years ago,because it seems they will never be added to the site,lots of nice photos of long lost pubs that will
now not be seen on this site.


You can add pictures of closed pubs, as long as the pub is listed on the site the monkeys can approve them. Personally I like to see them, it beats people sending in additional pictures of nail bars, health food shops and estate agents that used to be pubs: one picture of a closed pub in that guise is enough.

[sheffield hatter]

The only problem with that is that I've got a pub that I added as closed as it was a new build that was not yet open. Consequently it now seems to be in limbo - not approved, perhaps becuase it's closed, but I can't see a way to mark it as open prior to approval.

You could add a "review", stating what date it was opened. Hopefully Dave will then notice it when going through the backlog (or if reading this thread - hint;)).

[bcfczuluarmy]

One suggestion would be Dave gives the admin team access to allow suggested pubs to be approved or rejected with strict instructions on what to accept. E.G a blatantly obviously pub that's been missed here especially if an internet search/WP etc confirm as a pub would be added quickly. Anything down as closed/tenuous can be left for Dave to review.

A fair few entries when I check the new pubs are good calls so to be waiting for a month plus when strict delegation could leave the chaff from the wheat to be dealt with by the organ grinder in due course when his decision would be decided to the fate of the establishment and it's entry on here.

[ETA]

There seem to be pubs which have been accepted, but they don't show up on the summary page - the last one I can see is http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/reports/activity.php?day=29&month=10&year=2014&addpub=on . Unless of course it's my Firefox that is the problem.

[bcfczuluarmy]

There seem to be pubs which have been accepted, but they don't show up on the summary page - the last one I can see is http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/reports/activity.php?day=29&month=10&year=2014&addpub=on . Unless of course it's my Firefox that is the problem.

Seems fine for me on Chrome shows up as added with many facilities updated by ROB Camra since approval on 13th November.

[ETA]

Seems fine for me on Chrome shows up as added with many facilities updated by ROB Camra since approval on 13th November.

Not sure - I get the same result on Chrome on another platform - no 'added pub' reports since the Sportmans Arms on 29 Oct.

[bcfczuluarmy]

I misread your point thought you meant the pub added on 29th wasn't showing http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r285/bcfczuluarmy/smileys/0a641407.gif (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/bcfczuluarmy/media/smileys/0a641407.gif.html)

Seems we have a 2 month backlog again then. Possibly a text dropped to Dave by a member with his digits? I sent an unrelated PM about a feature I'd discovered on here and am still awaiting a reply. Not a issue on the PM but highlights a potential lack of involvement on the site. However he's moved house and we've had Christmas so may just be busy sorting more important things than another Cafe Rouge.

[Lady Grey]

I have now given up adding my old pictures of pubs i did many years ago,because it seems they will never be added to the site,lots of nice photos of long lost pubs that will
now not be seen on this site.

I for one, enjoy seeing your photos of pubs from yesteryear, you certainly have a magnificent collection of photos. Keep up the good work.

[ETA]

I for one, enjoy seeing your photos of pubs from yesteryear, you certainly have a magnificent collection of photos. Keep up the good work.

Agreed, I think it adds real value to see the history side of thinsg as well as the current reviews. As I've said before, this site could become a very useful resource for future historians.

[Dave M]

Seems we have a 2 month backlog again then. Possibly a text dropped to Dave by a member with his digits? I sent an unrelated PM about a feature I'd discovered on here and am still awaiting a reply. Not a issue on the PM but highlights a potential lack of involvement on the site. However he's moved house and we've had Christmas so may just be busy sorting more important things than another Cafe Rouge.
Pretty much hit the nail on the head with the house move part. Took me some time before I could properly set up a desk, then Christmas came along and distracted me, Apologies to the several people who have PM'd me, I will get round to them soon.
Right now just working on this backlog of new pubs.

On which note, I've just approved Squirrel Lickers Arms (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/82528/) but I've a feeling it probably isn't a genuine pub. Wondering if anyone else can work it out.

Hope everyone had a good Christmas and happy new year to you all, looking forward to catching up in York! :)

[ROBCamra]

On which note, I've just approved Squirrel Lickers Arms (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/82528/) but I've a feeling it probably isn't a genuine pub. Wondering if anyone else can work it out.

:)

It's spoof. A quick look on Tripadvisor about the nudist night and the fact it sells "Salvadorian cuisine" and the "Evening Harold" should sort that out. It's a good one though. :cheers:

[Rex_Rattus]

It's spoof. A quick look on Tripadvisor about the nudist night and the fact it sells "Salvadorian cuisine" and the "Evening Harold" should sort that out. It's a good one though. :cheers:
Very reminiscent of the late, and much lamented, Vickers Arms!

[Blackthorn]

On which note, I've just approved Squirrel Lickers Arms (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/82528/) but I've a feeling it probably isn't a genuine pub. Wondering if anyone else can work it out.

Oops, sorry! I was going to go and check it out, but hadn't got round to it yet!

[sheffield hatter]

Oops, sorry! I was going to go and check it out, but hadn't got round to it yet!

This item (http://eveningharold.com/2013/08/04/squirrel-lickers-arms-wins-best-pub-award-despite-suspected-voting-irregularities/) in the Evening Harold tells you all you need to know!

This photo (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Squirrel+Lickers+Arms&biw=1024&bih=649&tbm=isch&imgil=y6j-C8T1FyDndM%253A%253BVNdTHJyanXQHJM%253Bhttps%25253 A%25252F%25252Fwww.facebook.com%25252FSquirrelLick ers&source=iu&pf=m&fir=y6j-C8T1FyDndM%253A%252CVNdTHJyanXQHJM%252C_&usg=__p4CHrHmCqgRogZOcpn3K_3y2GAE%3D&ved=0CEAQyjc&ei=rMyqVLyeGc_waPGfgaAP#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=y6j-C8T1FyDndM%253A%3BVNdTHJyanXQHJM%3Bhttps%253A%252F %252Ffbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net%252Fhphotos-ak-xaf1%252Ft31.0-8%252Fc0.223.851.315%252Fp851x315%252F921084_58773 1567912188_1411305898_o.jpg%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252F www.facebook.com%252FSquirrelLickers%3B851%3B315) shows what looks like a real pub (does anyone recognise it?), but the pub sign is clearly the work of a fraudster.

[bcfczuluarmy]

All my open added pubs approved now, cheers Dave. Still have a closed one from last March waiting but as it's in Redditch and I stumbled on it watching TV I'm not that fussed if it doesn't get added.

Next witch hunt needs to be on map points awaiting 2nd generation approval...

Blackthorn's Squirrel Lickers Arms made me chuckle though.

[Aqualung]

Next witch hunt needs to be on map points awaiting 2nd generation approval...


I have three of these as follows

I wanted to correct my own map point to show the One Inn the Wood at Petts Wood to appear on the South Side of the narrow road it is on, probably a complete waste of time.

The second is correct as the Dovecote in E4 is definitely South of Simmons Lane.

The third is important but tricky as the White Hart in Loughborough is next door but one to Everard's Three Nuns (ooh-er missus!). I wanted the marker to show it as that rather than get hidden by the other pub marker or vice-versa, but I have no idea if I was successful.

[ETA]

Thanks for a marathon effort Dave - all is well in PuGLand again.