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Almost time for a final look back at the overall results. But first it's the final style league table.
As a stronger style - it was usually the strongest draught beer in a pub - you'd expect Stout to score reasonably well. At least better than its sibling Porter, for which only five of the eleven breweries could muster a positive average score.
London seems to have been out of step with the rest of Britain in terms of styles. By the 1920's draught Porter had pretty much disappeared elsewhere and draught Stout was following a similar path to extinction. But in London it was still going strong through WW II and into the 1960's. Why was that? Probably simply because they were styles with their origins in the capital.
The vast majority of the Stouts analysed were of the 9d (8d after 1923) per pint type. The price implied a gravity in the low 1050's, which is where most of these beers are. Wenlock and Courage were the odd men out with a weaker 8d (7d after 1923) per pint Stout. They fared quite differently, though. Wenlock's was one of the weakest, but scored surprisingly well. While Courage's was crap.
In the Mann and Meux samples, a few of the cheaper Stouts seem to be mixed in, but which were sold for the higher price. I would have been easy enough for a dodgy landlord to pass off a weaker Stout as a more expensive one, if the punters weren't paying too much attention. Some Charrington landlords went one better, passing off Porter as Stout, an old WW I trick. Gravities under 1040ยบ are a dead giveaway.
I think it's time to look at that league table:
League table of 1920s London Stouts by score
Brewery
FG
OG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
score
Whitbread
1014.8
1055.3
5.27
73.32%
2.00
Wenlock
1016.1
1045.7
3.83
64.56%
1.36
Watney
1013.4
1054.9
5.40
75.55%
1.13
Huggins
1018.5
1062.1
5.67
70.27%
1.09
Truman
1017.6
1053.5
4.66
67.20%
1.00
Mann
1012.0
1054.5
5.54
78.05%
0.43
Meux
1014.7
1054.9
5.23
73.29%
0.18
Hoare
1017.9
1054.2
4.70
67.06%
0.10
Cannon
1014.9
1049.5
4.49
70.05%
0
Charrington 9d only
1013.3
1052.5
5.10
74.70%
-1.00
Charrington
1012.9
1049.7
4.78
73.73%
-1.09
Barclay Perkins
1014.6
1055.4
5.31
73.72%
-1.21
Courage
1011.6
1046.3
4.51
74.98%
-1.67
all Stout
1014.8
1053.8
5.06
72.35%
0.29
Source:
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001
There are a couple of points of interest there. And a least one depressing one.
Only two of the traditional Porter breweries manage a top five finish: Whitbread and Truman. Oddly, the top three all have names beginning with a "W". And the bottom five all begin with a "B" or a "C". The table is almost in reverse alphabetical order. At least eight breweries managed an average positive score, with one averaging zero and three negative scores.
The top five all did pretty well. Any average over 1 is good. Whitbread came out especially well, but the sample size - three - was very small. Once again, Watney is in the top three. They really do seem to have been one of the top breweries for quality before the war. Where (and when) did it all go wrong?
Charrington, Barclay Perkins and Courage are all dreadful. It saddens me to see how crap Barclay Perkins beer was. No wonder their sales fell off so much in the 1920's. As this table shows:
Barclay Perkins output 1920 - 1929
year
barrels
1920
464,033
1921
393,045
1922
348,576
1923
293,728
1924
303,676
1925
329,464
1926
317,628
1927
306,682
1928
306,300
1929
300,569
Source:
Document ACC/2305/1/711/1 in the London Metropolitan Archives
Time for one final league table. This time ranked by the percentage with good flavour:
League table of 1920s London Stouts by good flavour
Brewery
No. examples
no. good flavour
% good flavour
score
Whitbread
3
3
100.00%
2.00
Huggins
11
9
81.82%
1.09
Wenlock
11
9
81.82%
1.36
Watney
16
13
81.25%
1.13
Truman
4
3
75.00%
1.00
Mann
14
9
64.29%
0.43
Hoare
10
6
60.00%
0.10
Meux
11
6
54.55%
0.18
Cannon
2
1
50.00%
0.00
Barclay Perkins
14
3
21.43%
-1.21
Charrington
11
2
18.18%
-1.09
Courage
3
0
0.00%
-1.67
Total
110
64
58.18%
Source:
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001
Not that different from the other league table.
Just a few steps left now in our journey. I'll be finishing with a roundup of all the styles and a final definitive league table. I can't wait.
More... (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2014/09/league-table-of-london-stouts-in-1920s.html)
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Almost time for a final look back at the overall results. But first it's the final style league table.
As a stronger style - it was usually the strongest draught beer in a pub - you'd expect Stout to score reasonably well. At least better than its sibling Porter, for which only five of the eleven breweries could muster a positive average score.
London seems to have been out of step with the rest of Britain in terms of styles. By the 1920's draught Porter had pretty much disappeared elsewhere and draught Stout was following a similar path to extinction. But in London it was still going strong through WW II and into the 1960's. Why was that? Probably simply because they were styles with their origins in the capital.
The vast majority of the Stouts analysed were of the 9d (8d after 1923) per pint type. The price implied a gravity in the low 1050's, which is where most of these beers are. Wenlock and Courage were the odd men out with a weaker 8d (7d after 1923) per pint Stout. They fared quite differently, though. Wenlock's was one of the weakest, but scored surprisingly well. While Courage's was crap.
In the Mann and Meux samples, a few of the cheaper Stouts seem to be mixed in, but which were sold for the higher price. I would have been easy enough for a dodgy landlord to pass off a weaker Stout as a more expensive one, if the punters weren't paying too much attention. Some Charrington landlords went one better, passing off Porter as Stout, an old WW I trick. Gravities under 1040ยบ are a dead giveaway.
I think it's time to look at that league table:
League table of 1920s London Stouts by score
Brewery
FG
OG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
score
Whitbread
1014.8
1055.3
5.27
73.32%
2.00
Wenlock
1016.1
1045.7
3.83
64.56%
1.36
Watney
1013.4
1054.9
5.40
75.55%
1.13
Huggins
1018.5
1062.1
5.67
70.27%
1.09
Truman
1017.6
1053.5
4.66
67.20%
1.00
Mann
1012.0
1054.5
5.54
78.05%
0.43
Meux
1014.7
1054.9
5.23
73.29%
0.18
Hoare
1017.9
1054.2
4.70
67.06%
0.10
Cannon
1014.9
1049.5
4.49
70.05%
0
Charrington 9d only
1013.3
1052.5
5.10
74.70%
-1.00
Charrington
1012.9
1049.7
4.78
73.73%
-1.09
Barclay Perkins
1014.6
1055.4
5.31
73.72%
-1.21
Courage
1011.6
1046.3
4.51
74.98%
-1.67
all Stout
1014.8
1053.8
5.06
72.35%
0.29
Source:
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001
There are a couple of points of interest there. And a least one depressing one.
Only two of the traditional Porter breweries manage a top five finish: Whitbread and Truman. Oddly, the top three all have names beginning with a "W". And the bottom five all begin with a "B" or a "C". The table is almost in reverse alphabetical order. At least eight breweries managed an average positive score, with one averaging zero and three negative scores.
The top five all did pretty well. Any average over 1 is good. Whitbread came out especially well, but the sample size - three - was very small. Once again, Watney is in the top three. They really do seem to have been one of the top breweries for quality before the war. Where (and when) did it all go wrong?
Charrington, Barclay Perkins and Courage are all dreadful. It saddens me to see how crap Barclay Perkins beer was. No wonder their sales fell off so much in the 1920's. As this table shows:
Barclay Perkins output 1920 - 1929
year
barrels
1920
464,033
1921
393,045
1922
348,576
1923
293,728
1924
303,676
1925
329,464
1926
317,628
1927
306,682
1928
306,300
1929
300,569
Source:
Document ACC/2305/1/711/1 in the London Metropolitan Archives
Time for one final league table. This time ranked by the percentage with good flavour:
League table of 1920s London Stouts by good flavour
Brewery
No. examples
no. good flavour
% good flavour
score
Whitbread
3
3
100.00%
2.00
Huggins
11
9
81.82%
1.09
Wenlock
11
9
81.82%
1.36
Watney
16
13
81.25%
1.13
Truman
4
3
75.00%
1.00
Mann
14
9
64.29%
0.43
Hoare
10
6
60.00%
0.10
Meux
11
6
54.55%
0.18
Cannon
2
1
50.00%
0.00
Barclay Perkins
14
3
21.43%
-1.21
Charrington
11
2
18.18%
-1.09
Courage
3
0
0.00%
-1.67
Total
110
64
58.18%
Source:
Whitbread Gravity book held at the London Metropolitan Archives, document number LMA/4453/D/02/001
Not that different from the other league table.
Just a few steps left now in our journey. I'll be finishing with a roundup of all the styles and a final definitive league table. I can't wait.
More... (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2014/09/league-table-of-london-stouts-in-1920s.html)