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In some parts of Britain - the Southeast and around Birmingham - towns were still expanding, with new housing estates tacked onto the outside. But, even when there was clearly demand, licensing authorities were extremely reluctant to grant new licences.
With pubs being actively closed by the authorities, brewers had to keep acquiring new ones jsut to stand still. Which made the prospect of a brand new pub in a new area of housing particularly attractive.
This case is typical. 140 houses had been built at Noak Hill - implying a population of at least 500-600 - but there was no pub. Truman wanted to build one, but met with opposition. One is pretty predictable but the other might come as a surprise.
"ROMFORD LICENSING NEW APPLICATIONS
. . . .
AT NOAK HILL.
Application was made for the provisional granting of a full licence for a proposed new house on the Estate, Noak Hill, for Frederick C. Ottley, of the Sun. London Road, Romford, and Mrs. Emma Cecil, widow, Camberwell Grove.
Harold Murphy supported the application; and for the opposition Mr. J. Thompson appeared for Mr. Mardell, licensee of the Bull, Brook Street; Mr. Read objected on behalf of 72 householders living withm 300 yards of the proposed site, and Mr. Beazley supported him.
Mr. Murphy handed in petitions in favour containing 134 names, and said the site was purchased by Messrs. Truman, Hanbury, Buxton, Co., who considered it suitable because there was no public-house nearer than a mile. It was a new neighbourhood, where a new demand had been created. About 140 houses had been erected up to now, and when the estate was developed there would be a mile and a quarter road frontage.
Mr Mardell said he could fulfil all orders from Sunny Town and and Mr. Read urged that the residents were quite satisfied. — The Bench refused the application."
Chelmsford Chronicle - Friday 11 February 1927, page 8.
It's no surprise thta there were some local residents who opposed it. There's always at least one who will object to anything. But a publican? Surely he'd be in favour of the trade? Well, not really. If you had a monopoly - which Mr. Mardell seemed to - you wouldn't want competition. In reality it was very common for other local publicans and shopkeepers to object to new licence application.
This will give you some idea of the challenges facing brewers:
Pub licences 1900 - 1930 in England & Wales
Year
Full
Beer / wine
Total Pubs
Population
1900
102,189
32,249,187
1905
99,478
33,990,764
1910
64,129
28,355
92,484
35,796,280
1914
62,104
25,556
87,660
36,960,684
1920
60,021
23,411
83,432
37,524,000
1923
58,887
22,100
80,987
38,403,000
1924
58,610
21,810
80,420
38,746,000
1925
58,336
21,524
79,860
38,890,000
1926
58,103
21,227
79,330
39,067,000
1927
57,896
20,907
78,803
39,203,000
1928
57,896
21,524
79,420
39,482,000
1929
57,465
20,356
77,821
39,988,000
1930
57,525
20,080
77,605
1920 - 1930
decline
6.98%
1910 - 1930
decline
16.09%
1900 - 1930
decline
24.06%
Sources:
Brewers' Almanack 1971, page 83.
1924 – 1972: The Brewers' Society Statistical handbook 1973”, page 50.
If the increase in population is taken into account, the decline in pub numbers is even more dramatic.
The Sun, a rather attractive 1920's Truman house, still exists. I wonder if that was rebuilt in response to the licence application refusal?
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A Truman eagle is clearly visible above the right-hand balcony.
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In some parts of Britain - the Southeast and around Birmingham - towns were still expanding, with new housing estates tacked onto the outside. But, even when there was clearly demand, licensing authorities were extremely reluctant to grant new licences.
With pubs being actively closed by the authorities, brewers had to keep acquiring new ones jsut to stand still. Which made the prospect of a brand new pub in a new area of housing particularly attractive.
This case is typical. 140 houses had been built at Noak Hill - implying a population of at least 500-600 - but there was no pub. Truman wanted to build one, but met with opposition. One is pretty predictable but the other might come as a surprise.
"ROMFORD LICENSING NEW APPLICATIONS
. . . .
AT NOAK HILL.
Application was made for the provisional granting of a full licence for a proposed new house on the Estate, Noak Hill, for Frederick C. Ottley, of the Sun. London Road, Romford, and Mrs. Emma Cecil, widow, Camberwell Grove.
Harold Murphy supported the application; and for the opposition Mr. J. Thompson appeared for Mr. Mardell, licensee of the Bull, Brook Street; Mr. Read objected on behalf of 72 householders living withm 300 yards of the proposed site, and Mr. Beazley supported him.
Mr. Murphy handed in petitions in favour containing 134 names, and said the site was purchased by Messrs. Truman, Hanbury, Buxton, Co., who considered it suitable because there was no public-house nearer than a mile. It was a new neighbourhood, where a new demand had been created. About 140 houses had been erected up to now, and when the estate was developed there would be a mile and a quarter road frontage.
Mr Mardell said he could fulfil all orders from Sunny Town and and Mr. Read urged that the residents were quite satisfied. — The Bench refused the application."
Chelmsford Chronicle - Friday 11 February 1927, page 8.
It's no surprise thta there were some local residents who opposed it. There's always at least one who will object to anything. But a publican? Surely he'd be in favour of the trade? Well, not really. If you had a monopoly - which Mr. Mardell seemed to - you wouldn't want competition. In reality it was very common for other local publicans and shopkeepers to object to new licence application.
This will give you some idea of the challenges facing brewers:
Pub licences 1900 - 1930 in England & Wales
Year
Full
Beer / wine
Total Pubs
Population
1900
102,189
32,249,187
1905
99,478
33,990,764
1910
64,129
28,355
92,484
35,796,280
1914
62,104
25,556
87,660
36,960,684
1920
60,021
23,411
83,432
37,524,000
1923
58,887
22,100
80,987
38,403,000
1924
58,610
21,810
80,420
38,746,000
1925
58,336
21,524
79,860
38,890,000
1926
58,103
21,227
79,330
39,067,000
1927
57,896
20,907
78,803
39,203,000
1928
57,896
21,524
79,420
39,482,000
1929
57,465
20,356
77,821
39,988,000
1930
57,525
20,080
77,605
1920 - 1930
decline
6.98%
1910 - 1930
decline
16.09%
1900 - 1930
decline
24.06%
Sources:
Brewers' Almanack 1971, page 83.
1924 – 1972: The Brewers' Society Statistical handbook 1973”, page 50.
If the increase in population is taken into account, the decline in pub numbers is even more dramatic.
The Sun, a rather attractive 1920's Truman house, still exists. I wonder if that was rebuilt in response to the licence application refusal?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TZ_PWPdBfrc/UwNn7xZtopI/AAAAAAAATHU/VZJiF0tjzEs/s1600/Romford_The_Sun.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TZ_PWPdBfrc/UwNn7xZtopI/AAAAAAAATHU/VZJiF0tjzEs/s1600/Romford_The_Sun.jpg)
A Truman eagle is clearly visible above the right-hand balcony.
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