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I'm very surprised that Bottled beers in the 1870's (http://barclayperkins.blogspot.nl/2013/09/bottled-beers-in-1870s.html) was one of the most poular posts in September. No idea why, but it's had four times the views of any other post in this series. The best I can come up with is that you're a weird lot.

I have a lot more examples for this time slice. And it's not just a question of having found more price lists for this period. A much higher percentage of the price lists include bottled beer. There's a simple enough explanation: by this time a large percentage of breweries had started bottling themselves. It doesn't mean their beers weren't available in bottled form before. Before 1880 most beer was bottled by independent bottlers. The price lists I've used as sources were mostly advertisements placed by breweries. When they weren't producing and selling it themselves, why should they bother including bottled beer in an advert?

In the case of the Young's beers in the table, these were the first produced by the brewery. Which seems a little late to me.

This time I decided to lump the Light Bitters in with Dinner Ales. It's a bit arbitrary, but what the hell. My reasoning was to show the different strands of Pale Ale establishing their own identity. Those were IPA, Pale Ale and Light Bitter/Dinner Ale. It would be neat to say I've listed them in descending order of strength and price, but that isn't necessarily so. Light Bitter/Dinner Ale was always the weakest of a brewery's Pale Ales, but the position of IPA and Pale varied from brewery to brewery. For example, Whitbread's IPA was weaker than their Pale Ale.



style
no. examples
%


Stout
38
37.62%


IPA
18
17.82%


Dinner Ale
16
15.84%


Ale
9
8.91%


Pale Ale
8
7.92%


Lager
2
1.98%


Mild
2
1.98%


Porter
2
1.98%


Strong Ale
2
1.98%


Cooper
2
1.98%


Low Alcohol
1
0.99%


Brown Ale
1
0.99%


Total
101
100.00%



There are the most examples of Stout by a street, more than double the second best represented style, IPA. But, if I lump together all the Black Beers (Stout, Porter and Cooper) and all the Pale Ales (IPA, Pale and Dinner Ale) it's a dead heat, with 42 of each. This is a fairly random selection of examples, but I believe it does show general trends in bottled beer. Pale Ales and Stouts were far and away the most popular styles in bottle.



style
no. examples
%


Stout
38
37.62%


Porter
2
1.98%


Cooper
2
1.98%


subtotal
42
41.58%


IPA
18
17.82%


Pale Ale
8
7.92%


Dinner Ale
16
15.84%


subtotal
42
41.58%


Total
101
124.75%



You may have spotted that, for the first time, there's a Brown Ale. I confess that I'm not 100% sure that Maxim Ale was a Brown Ale at this point. That's just a guess on my part. In my defence, 1909 is about a decade after the first appearance of Brown Ale. So it's not a totally unreasonable assumption.


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One word about pricing. At first I thought 1s 4d for 4 quarts of Truman Family Ale or Oatmeal Stout must be wrong. It sounded far too cheap. But it only works out to 4d a quart - the equivalent of 2s per dozen Imperial pints. Cheap, but not unreasonably so. And quarts were the cheapest format to produce. It looks like crates of 4 quarts were competing directly with draught beer fetched in a jug from the local pub. 4d a quart is the same price X Ale sold for in the public bar.

I'm pretty sure that I can match up Truman Family Ale with a beer in their brewing records. LK - London Keeper - appeared sometime between 1900 and 1905. It had a very low gravity for a London Pale Ale of the period: just 1046º at a time when their X Ale was over 1050º

I feared that I would struggle to spot the Oatmeal Stout. Turned out to be a piece of piss. As there was a thing called "Bottling" in the only brews that contained oats. It was parti-gyled with Country Runner, a Porter. So while it was marketed as a Stout, it was really a Porter. And the weakest one of Truman's Porters at that. It just shows how arbitrary the distinction between Porter and Stout was.

There were a few Milds this time, including Rogers' Imperial Mild Ale. Judging by the price - 3 shillings for a dozen reputed pints - it truly was Imperial. That's the equivalent of 4s 6d for a dozen Imperial pints. The only other beers in the table costing that much were Bass Pale Ale and Guinness Extra Stout, both beers that were sold at a premium. My guess would be that the Imperial Mild had an OG between 1090º and 1100º.

This time around, I've got brewing records for two breweries: Tetley and Truman. Which means another two tables. Aren't you lucky.



Truman Family Ale and Oatmeal Stout


Year
Beer
Style
OG
lbs hops/ qtr
hops lb/brl


1909
Bottling
Porter
1052.6
7.5
1.82


1909
LK
Pale Ale
1045.7
6.2
1.30


Source:


Truman brewing records held at the London Metropolitan Archives, documents numbers B/THB/C/112 and B/THB/C/190.




I suppose I should decode the Tetley beers for you. I think K is the Dinner Ale, PA is definitely the East India Pale Ale, P is definitely the Family Porter and S definitely the Extra Stout. Special Mild Ale, Imperial Ale and Strong Ale are probably X2, X3 and XX respectively. It would be easier to work out if they all had come in the same size bottle.



Tetley beers in 1904


Year
Beer
Style
OG
FG
ABV
App. Atten-uation
lbs hops/ qtr
hops lb/brl
barrels


1904
K
Pale Ale
1045.4
1007.8
4.98
82.93%
7.72
1.45
211.25


1904
P
Porter
1050.4
1017.2
4.40
65.93%
4.91
1.03
41.75


1904
PA
Pale Ale
1059.8
1010.8
6.49
81.94%
11.13
2.96
333.25


1904
S
Stout
1066.8
1020.5
6.12
69.29%
4.91
1.36
28


1904
X
Mild
1038.8
1010.0
3.81
74.29%
4.01
0.61
273.25


1904
X Pale
Mild
1042.1
1008.3
4.47
80.26%
5.71
0.96
56.25


1904
X1
Mild
1046.3
1010.5
4.73
77.25%
4.24
0.78
163.5


1904
X1 Pale
Mild
1047.9
1012.2
4.73
74.57%
5.71
1.12
28


1904
X2
Mild
1056.8
1013.3
5.75
76.59%
7.18
1.59
280.75


1904
X2 Pale
Mild
1056.2
1013.3
5.68
76.35%
5.71
1.31
53


1904
X3
Mild
1061.4
1017.7
5.77
71.11%
8.06
1.99
113.75


1904
XX
Mild
1071.7
1017.2
7.22
76.06%
8.06
2.33
112.25


Source:


Tetley brewing record held at the West Yorkshire Archive Service Leeds, document number WYL756/51/ACC1903.



And finally, here's the full table:



Bottled beers 1900 - 1909


Brewery
Place
year
beer
style
price per dozen
size
source


Barbe, H.J. & Co.
Ashton Clinton
1900
Ale
Ale
2s 6d

Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Godsell & Sons
Stroud, Gloucs
1909
Imperial
Ale
2s 6d
pint



Rochdale & Manor Brwry.
Rochdale
1909
Star Ale
Ale





Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Bristol Ale
Ale
2s
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Bristol Ale
Ale
1s 3d
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Monarch Ale
Ale
2s 6d
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Monarch Ale
Ale
1s 6d
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Imperial (non-deposit) Ale
Ale
2s 2d
pony bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Walker & Homfray
Salford
1908
Comet Ale
Ale





C. Vaux & Sons Ltd
Sunderland
1909
Maxim Ale
Brown Ale





Breeds & Co
Hastings
1905
Cooper
Cooper
2s 6d

Kelly's Directory of Sussex, 1905


Headington & Son
Wokingham
1903
Cooper
Cooper
2s
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Allsopp
Burton
1900
Light Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint
Gloucester Citizen - Monday 04 June 1900, page 1.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
Light Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale
1s 6d
half pint
Gloucester Citizen - Monday 04 June 1900, page 1.


Aylesbury Brewery
Aylesbury
1900
ABC Light Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Aylesbury Brewery
Aylesbury
1900
ABC Light Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale
1s 6d
half pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Bailey & Tebbutt
Cambridge
1908
Light Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint



Daniell & Sons
Colchester
1900
Sparkling Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint



Godsell & Sons
Stroud, Gloucs
1902
Light D. A.
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint
Kelly's Directory of Somerset, 1902


Headington & Son
Wokingham
1903
Light Bitter Ale
Dinner Ale
2s
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Heavitree Brewery
Exeter
1909
AKK Light Bitter Ale
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Monday 05 July 1909, page 2


Heavitree Brewery
Exeter
1909
AKK Light Bitter Ale
Dinner Ale
1s 6d
half pint
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Monday 05 July 1909, page 2


Seth Senior and Sons
Huddersfield
1900
Light Bitter
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
pint screw
Huddersfield Chronicle - Saturday 22 December 1900, page 1


Seth Senior and Sons
Huddersfield
1900
Light Bitter
Dinner Ale
1s 6d
stoppered half pint
Huddersfield Chronicle - Saturday 22 December 1900, page 1


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Dinner Ale (Light Bitter)
Dinner Ale
1s 6d
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Dinner Ale (Light Bitter)
Dinner Ale
2s 6d
large bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Threlfall's
Salford
1905
XX Dinner Ale
Dinner Ale





Truman
London
1908
Truman's Family Ale
Dinner Ale
1s 4d
4 quarts



Allsopp
Burton
1900
East India Pale Ale
IPA
3s
pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
East India Pale Ale
IPA
1s 9d
half pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
East India Pale Ale
IPA
3s 6d
pint
Gloucester Citizen - Monday 04 June 1900, page 1.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
East India Pale Ale
IPA
1s 9d
half pint
Gloucester Citizen - Monday 04 June 1900, page 1.


Bass
Burton
1900
India Pale Ale
IPA
4s 6d
pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Bass
Burton
1900
India Pale Ale
IPA
2s 3d
half pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Bass
Burton
1903
India Pale Ale
IPA
4s
pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Bass
Burton
1903
India Pale Ale
IPA
2s 6d
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Bass
Burton
1904
India Pale Ale
IPA
2s 3d
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Breeds & Co
Hastings
1905
India Pale Ale
IPA
3s

Kelly's Directory of Sussex, 1905


Headington & Son
Wokingham
1903
India Pale Ale
IPA
3s
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Heavitree Brewery
Exeter
1909
East India Pale Ale
IPA
3s 3d
pint
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Monday 05 July 1909, page 2


Heavitree Brewery
Exeter
1909
East India Pale Ale
IPA
1s 9d
half pint
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Monday 05 July 1909, page 2


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
East India Pale Ale
IPA
3s
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
East India Pale Ale
IPA
1s 9d
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Tetley
Leeds
1904
East India Pale Ale
IPA
2s
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Threlfall's
Salford
1905
India Pale Ale
IPA





Young's
London
1905
IPA
IPA

First bottled beers.



Allsopp
Burton
1900
Lager Beer
Lager
3s 6d
pint
Gloucester Citizen - Monday 04 June 1900, page 1.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
Lager Beer
Lager
2s 3d
half pint
Gloucester Citizen - Monday 04 June 1900, page 1.


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Hop Ale (Non-Intoxicating)
Low Alcohol
1s
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Bailey & Tebbutt
Cambridge
1908
Strong Ale
Mild
4s
pint



Bardsley Brewey
Ashton-Under-Lyne
1908
Best Mild (light Mild)
Mild





Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Imperial Mild Ale
Mild
3s
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Special (non-deposit) Mild Ale
Mild
3s
large bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Breeds & Co
Hastings
1905
Pale Ale
Pale Ale
2s 6d

Kelly's Directory of Sussex, 1905


Godsell & Sons
Stroud, Gloucs
1902
Pale Ale
Pale Ale
3s 6d
pint
Kelly's Directory of Somerset, 1902


Godsell & Sons
Stroud, Gloucs
1909
Pale Ale
Pale Ale
3s 6d
pint



Headington & Son
Wokingham
1903
Pale Ale
Pale Ale
2s 6d
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Icon Heppenstall
Goole
1902
SBA Ale
Pale Ale
1s 6d
half pint



Seth Senior and Sons
Huddersfield
1900
Pale Ale
Pale Ale
3s
pint screw
Huddersfield Chronicle - Saturday 22 December 1900, page 1


Seth Senior and Sons
Huddersfield
1900
Pale Ale
Pale Ale
1s
stoppered half pint
Huddersfield Chronicle - Saturday 22 December 1900, page 1


Young's
London
1905
PA Pale Ale
Pale Ale

First bottled beers.



Tetley
Leeds
1904
Family Porter
Porter
1s 6d
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Family Porter
Porter
2s 6d
large bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
Stout
Stout
4s
pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Allsopp
Burton
1900
Stout
Stout
2s
half pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Bailey & Tebbutt
Cambridge
1908
Oatmeal Stout
Stout
2s 6d
pint



Bailey & Tebbutt
Cambridge
1908
Nourishing Stout
Stout
2s 6d
pint



Barbe, H.J. & Co.
Ashton Clinton
1900
Stout
Stout
3s

Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Bardsley Brewey
Ashton-Under-Lyne
1908
Double Stout
Stout





Breeds & Co
Hastings
1905
Single Stout
Stout
2s 6d

Kelly's Directory of Sussex, 1905


Breeds & Co
Hastings
1905
Double Stout
Stout
3s

Kelly's Directory of Sussex, 1905


Breeds & Co
Hastings
1905
Oat Malt Stout
Stout
2s 6d

Kelly's Directory of Sussex, 1905


Combe & Co.
London
1900
Stout
Stout
3s
pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Combe & Co.
London
1900
Stout
Stout
1s 9d
half pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Daniell & Sons
Colchester
1900
Creamy Stout
Stout
2s 6d
pint



Godsell & Sons
Stroud, Gloucs
1902
Nourishing Stout
Stout
3s 3d
pint
Kelly's Directory of Somerset, 1902


Godsell & Sons
Stroud, Gloucs
1909
Nourishing Stout
Stout
3s 3d
pint



Guinness
Dublin
1900
Stout
Stout
4s 6d
pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Guinness
Dublin
1900
Stout
Stout
2s 3d
half pint
Bucks Herald - Saturday 03 November 1900, page 1.


Guinness
Dublin
1903
Stout
Stout
4s
pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Guinness
Dublin
1903
Stout
Stout
2s 6d
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Guinness
Dublin
1904
Guinness
Stout
1s 11d
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Guinness
Dublin
1904
Guinness
Stout
3s 6d
large bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Headington & Son
Wokingham
1903
Nourishing Stout
Stout
2s 6d
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Headington & Son
Wokingham
1903
Double Brown Stout
Stout
3s
half pint
Reading Mercury - Saturday 21 March 1903, page 10


Heavitree Brewery
Exeter
1909
Oatmeal Stout
Stout
2s 6d
pint
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Monday 05 July 1909, page 2


Heavitree Brewery
Exeter
1909
Oatmeal Stout
Stout
1s 6d
half pint
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Monday 05 July 1909, page 2


Icon Heppenstall
Goole
1902
Double Stout
Stout
1s 6d
half pint



Rochdale & Manor Brwry.
Rochdale
1909
Oatmeal Nourishing Stout
Stout





Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Bristol Stout
Stout
2s
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Bristol Stout
Stout
1s 3d
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Monarch Stout
Stout
2s 6d
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Monarch Stout
Stout
1s 6d
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
Imperial Double Stout
Stout
3s
reputed pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Seth Senior and Sons
Huddersfield
1900
Family Stout
Stout
1s 6d
stoppered half pint
Huddersfield Chronicle - Saturday 22 December 1900, page 1


Seth Senior and Sons
Huddersfield
1900
Extra Stout
Stout
1s 9d
stone bottle
Huddersfield Chronicle - Saturday 22 December 1900, page 1


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Extra Stout
Stout
1s 9d
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.


Truman
London
1908
Truman's Oatmeal Stout
Stout
1s 4d
4 quarts



Young's
London
1905
Oatmeal Stout
Stout

First bottled beers.



Young's
London
1905
Double Stout
Stout

First bottled beers.



Young's
London
1905
Stout
Stout

First bottled beers.



Rogers' Ales
Bristol
1900
XXXXX Strong Ale
Strong Ale
1s 9d
imperial half pint
Western Daily Press - Saturday 15 December 1900, page 3


Tetley
Leeds
1904
Strong Ale
Strong Ale
2s
small bottles
“Quality Pays . . the Story of Joshua Tetley & Son” by Clifford Lackey, 1985, page 99.



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I'm not sure if I'll continue this further into the 20th century. I start getting information overload after WW I when I have Whitbread's and Truman's Gravity Books to play with.




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