Links to stuff that I need to put on the site!

[Dave M]

List of pubs in the UK with a CAMRA discount (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pub-features/camra-discount/)

Stats
Real Ale by county (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/real-ale-counties.php)
Photos by county (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/photos-counties.php)
Reviews by county (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/reviews-counties.php)
Pub Facility contributions by user (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/user-facilities/)
Top 1000 most followed pub list (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/twitter/popular/)

Tools
Check reviews mentioning real ale (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/tools/check-reviews.php?pagefacid=101)
Check reviews mentioning camra discount (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/tools/check-reviews.php?pagefacid=102)

[ROBCamra]

Dave, there appears to be a glitch in the List Of Pubs With A CAMRA discount link above.

If you get the list up and then amend the details section and save it. The CAMRA discount flag on the pub is set back to Unknown although the details bit is saved OK.

Works fine on the pub itself.

I just tried it with Doctors in Edinburgh to confirm what it does.

Cheers

[hondo]

Dave, there appears to be a glitch in the List Of Pubs With A CAMRA discount link above.

If you get the list up and then amend the details section and save it. The CAMRA discount flag on the pub is set back to Unknown although the details bit is saved OK.

Works fine on the pub itself.

I just tried it with Doctors in Edinburgh to confirm what it does.

Cheers

is the camra discount in taylor walker pubs permanent or just during the real ale festival

[ROBCamra]

is the camra discount in taylor walker pubs permanent or just during the real ale festival

All the time acording to Edinburgh & South East Scotland CAMRA.

http://www.edinburghcamra.org.uk/discounts/

[hondo]

All the time acording to Edinburgh & South East Scotland CAMRA.

ok thanks
http://www.taylor-walker.co.uk/offers/cask-ale-festival/

[hondo]

All the time acording to Edinburgh & South East Scotland CAMRA.

http://www.edinburghcamra.org.uk/discounts/


http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/63452/ interesting

[Dave M]

Dave, there appears to be a glitch in the List Of Pubs With A CAMRA discount link above.

If you get the list up and then amend the details section and save it. The CAMRA discount flag on the pub is set back to Unknown although the details bit is saved OK.

Works fine on the pub itself.

I just tried it with Doctors in Edinburgh to confirm what it does.

Cheers
Yep, you are quite right there is a glitch there. I think it is now fixed but I haven't tested extensively as not at my own PC right now!

Sorry about that.

[py0]

Question: is it possible to arrange pubs in order of rating within a city?

It would be very helpful to see at a glance which pubs might be worth visiting without having to trawl through every review.

[aleandhearty]

Question: is it possible to arrange pubs in order of rating within a city?

It would be very helpful to see at a glance which pubs might be worth visiting without having to trawl through every review.

The trouble is, some of our more trusted contributors don't score their reviews numerically. Over on BITE, the scoring system was/is abused and manipulated by patrons and pub staff members. By deliberately not giving a score, it is hoped that scenario is not repeated on PuG.

[Quinno]

Question: is it possible to arrange pubs in order of rating within a city?

It would be very helpful to see at a glance which pubs might be worth visiting without having to trawl through every review.

Sadly, what's happened over on BITE has rendered the chances of that happening on here almost dead. Unless someone has a bright idea to circumvent the noodlings of the trolls that will inevitably be drawn to the metaphorical light...

However one upside is that pubs that were once poor and have come good aren't relegated to the mid-league here, weighed down by low scores from years ago as you see on the Other Site.

[Mobyduck]

How does the pubs with CAMRA discount update ? Automaticaly. or is it manual, I notice the Greyfriar (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/1685/) is not represented on the list but it is mentioned on the pub details.Its not on the check reviews link.

[ROBCamra]

How does the pubs with CAMRA discount update ? Automaticaly. or is it manual, I notice the Greyfriar (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/1685/) is not represented on the list but it is mentioned on the pub details.Its not on the check reviews link.

It was set to no on the details even though the free text had been filled in.

It's on there now.

[Quinno]

It was set to no on the details even though the free text had been filled in.

It's on there now.

Hee hee that'll actually need to come off at the end of the month as the licensee has decided to end it after the conclusion of our Ale Trail. I'm just off to correct the review.

I'd really like those old Malthouse photos to be excluded from appearing on the front page. It'd be nice to get that option back for admins.

[Mobyduck]

Hee hee that'll actually need to come off at the end of the month as the licensee has decided to end it after the conclusion of our Ale Trail. I'm just off to correct the review.
Bugger. :moremad:

[sheffield hatter]

I'd really like those old Malthouse photos to be excluded from appearing on the front page. It'd be nice to get that option back for admins.

Just giving this a bump in case Dave is around. We didn't talk about this when we met in Worcester, but it's been on my mind for some time that there are some photos which have been approved for the site but which, in my opinion, really shouldn't appear on the summary page. For example, interior shots, especially of of people drinking or eating, pictures of special features like tiles, carvings or blue plaques, pictures of a pub when it had a different name. All these are valid and acceptable pictures to appear on the photos page, but if they also appear randomly on the summary page they are not truly representative of the pub's appearance.

I know that there were some concerns about photos being "deleted" when this subject came up a couple of years ago, and I'm not suggesting anything like that. Pubs Galore is a great site partly because it accepts (almost) any photo from members, therefore making us (or at least those of us who submit photos) feel a sense of belonging and value. However, it is also a site that attracts casual viewers, who are just looking for info about a pub - so it seems to me reasonable that only those photos that represent the pub in its present guise should appear on the summary page.

Each of us as photographers has the right to suppress our own photos from the summary page, and I always do this with my own photos (when I remember to do so). My suggestion would be that those of us who have been given photo approval access should also have limited photo suppression rights, with reasons stated and challengeable. [Stands back in anticipation of shower of vitriol.]

[ROBCamra]

My suggestion would be that those of us who have been given photo approval access should also have limited photo suppression rights, with reasons stated and challengeable. [Stands back in anticipation of shower of vitriol.]


A vitriolic "totally agree" from me. I approved a couple the other day that I would have liked the option to not show on the main page.

They were photo's of the view from the pub, rather than of the pub, so valid enough in their own way.

But rolling fields and a lake is not what I would expect to see on the main page:cheers:

[Dave M]

Just giving this a bump in case Dave is around. We didn't talk about this when we met in Worcester
Quinno did mention it to me in Worcester and I agree it needs doing - it is on my list. I might even get round to letting you know when I implement it. ;)

[sheffield hatter]

A vitriolic "totally agree" from me.

Nice one!


I agree it needs doing - it is on my list. I might even get round to letting you know when I implement it. ;)

I'm sure we'll figure it out...

[Rex_Rattus]

We had this feature before, and I was one of those who had the authority to "suppress" - not delete - photos from appearing on the front page, and would be happy to take it on again if it's reinstated. The plug was pulled on the provision because one or two of us - myself included - were regarded as a little over enthusiastic as to what photos we supressed. We were applying the sort of judgements that Sheffield Hatter is asking for now, whereas what was actually required (as I understand it) was that the photos to be supressed should be limited to where pub name changes had occurred. In the debate at the time I put forward the view that it was entirely appropriate to suppress from the front page photos that are not really representative of the pub - my main bugbear being photographs of pubs you can't even see because they're covered in scaffolding and plastic sheeting and where you have to take on trust that there's a pub underneath it.

So, I agree entirely with SH and ROB on this one. If more than the current "photo approvers" would be helpful, then I for one would be happy to take it on again.

[Blackthorn]

It always used to be the case that if a pub was renamed then photo's showing the pub with the old name were removed from the main page as a matter of course. This was back when it was just Dave & Conrad doing it, but it seemed logical.

The downside of that though was that you might then end up without a photo on the main page. Is it better to have an old photo than none at all? And not only that, but if viewing a list of pubs it would still have the photo icon next to it, even though there wasn't one (on the main page).

[sheffield hatter]

It always used to be the case that if a pub was renamed then photo's showing the pub with the old name were removed from the main page as a matter of course. This was back when it was just Dave & Conrad doing it, but it seemed logical.

The downside of that though was that you might then end up without a photo on the main page. Is it better to have an old photo than none at all? And not only that, but if viewing a list of pubs it would still have the photo icon next to it, even though there wasn't one (on the main page).

There may be a technical solution to that, but it might involve more work on Dave's part than he has time for at the moment, I would guess.

[Mobyduck]

Each of us as photographers has the right to suppress our own photos from the summary page, and I always do this with my own photos (when I remember to do so). My suggestion would be that those of us who have been given photo approval access should also have limited photo suppression rights, with reasons stated and challengeable. [Stands back in anticipation of shower of vitriol.]
I took this on-board and decided to suppress one of the only three photos of this pub (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/59679/) from the main page, my local and they are all my photos, it is the one interior bar scene, I am still not convinced whether it needs suppressing or not as it does give a flavour of what you will possibly find when inside,the public bar anyway,but to the casual viewer maybe the more photogenic exterior shots would look better than three rather substantial gents crowded around the bar. But it is what it is, a locals pub and I know all the pictured stout chaps personally.Anyhow unsure or not I decided to set it to do not show on the main page, checked today and it came up main page anyway.
So four questions,
1- Should it be suppressed given the nature of the pub it depicts.
2- Is there a glitch as it has not been suppressed from the front page.
3- Am I being too impatient.
4- Or am I just computer/site incompetent .
Serious replies required for question one , I am thinking its OK but not sure how other users are thinking on this?

[sheffield hatter]

I took this on-board and decided to suppress one of the only three photos of this pub (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/59679/) from the main page, my local and they are all my photos, it is the one interior bar scene, I am still not convinced whether it needs suppressing or not as it does give a flavour of what you will possibly find when inside,the public bar anyway,but to the casual viewer maybe the more photogenic exterior shots would look better than three rather substantial gents crowded around the bar. But it is what it is, a locals pub and I know all the pictured stout chaps personally.Anyhow unsure or not I decided to set it to do not show on the main page, checked today and it came up main page anyway.
So four questions,
1- Should it be suppressed given the nature of the pub it depicts.
2- Is there a glitch as it has not been suppressed from the front page.
3- Am I being too impatient.
4- Or am I just computer/site incompetent .
Serious replies required for question one , I am thinking its OK but not sure how other users are thinking on this?

I'm impressed that you've given this some thought and taken some action subsequent to the thought process. My personal answers to your questions (and I do not pretend to represent the site or a consensus of users):
1) I agree this is the type of photo I would suppress if given the power. However representative of a typical pub scene it might be, it is not, as you correctly say, what the casual viewer would expect to see on the main page.
2) Don't know.
3) Only time will tell.
4) Quite possibly. When you go to the pictures page and select a picture that you have contributed, an extra button appears that was not previously available. The text inside the button reads "Don't show picture on main page". If you click on this button, it immediately changes to "Do show picture on main page", i.e. the words in the button describe the button's function, they do not describe the picture's status. The fact that your picture of three blokes standing at the bar is still appearing on the main page suggests to me that the button now reads "Don't show picture on main page". I don't know - the button doesn't appear when I look at it, because it's not my picture.

Hope this helps.

[Mobyduck]

I'm impressed that you've given this some thought and taken some action subsequent to the thought process. My personal answers to your questions (and I do not pretend to represent the site or a consensus of users):
1) I agree this is the type of photo I would suppress if given the power. However representative of a typical pub scene it might be, it is not, as you correctly say, what the casual viewer would expect to see on the main page.
2) Don't know.
3) Only time will tell.
4) Quite possibly. When you go to the pictures page and select a picture that you have contributed, an extra button appears that was not previously available. The text inside the button reads "Don't show picture on main page". If you click on this button, it immediately changes to "Do show picture on main page", i.e. the words in the button describe the button's function, they do not describe the picture's status. The fact that your picture of three blokes standing at the bar is still appearing on the main page suggests to me that the button now reads "Don't show picture on main page". I don't know - the button doesn't appear when I look at it, because it's not my picture.

Hope this helps.
:D Yes I think it did help, so what confused me was the button saying do not show on main page when in fact it should be saying do show, after managing to wipe all the pictures from the pub :whistle: it dawned on me so have now sorted it. Cheers.

[Al 10000]

It always used to be the case that if a pub was renamed then photo's showing the pub with the old name were removed from the main page as a matter of course. This was back when it was just Dave & Conrad doing it, but it seemed logical.

The downside of that though was that you might then end up without a photo on the main page. Is it better to have an old photo than none at all? And not only that, but if viewing a list of pubs it would still have the photo icon next to it, even though there wasn't one (on the main page).

What is going off with this hiding pubs from the main pubs page this pub The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/55978/) has 3 photos all hidden,the pub still has the same name,so why are they hidden.

Another Sheffield pub which has changed names Graze Inn (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/66754/) still has its old pub name of Champs on the main pub page while it is operating under a different name.

All very :confused::confused::confused:

[oldboots]

What is going off with this hiding pubs from the main pubs page ...

As far as I know, apart from Dave M, only the original submitter can make the decision to show or hide photos on the main page of the pub, so in the case of The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubpictures/55978) that would be Jim Newell, Alan Winfield and Will Larter who made the choice if it wasn't Dave.

[Mobyduck]

What is going off with this hiding pubs from the main pubs page this pub The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/55978/) has 3 photos all hidden,the pub still has the same name,so why are they hidden.

Another Sheffield pub which has changed names Graze Inn (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/66754/) still has its old pub name of Champs on the main pub page while it is operating under a different name.

All very :confused::confused::confused:


As far as I know, apart from Dave M, only the original submitter can make the decision to show or hide photos on the main page of the pub, so in the case of The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubpictures/55978) that would be Jim Newell, Alan Winfield and Will Larter who made the choice if it wasn't Dave.
Can't understand why The Park pictures have been suppressed at all ? It leaves no pictures on the main page.Nuts.

[Quinno]

As far as I know, apart from Dave M, only the original submitter can make the decision to show or hide photos on the main page of the pub, so in the case of The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubpictures/55978) that would be Jim Newell, Alan Winfield and Will Larter who made the choice if it wasn't Dave.

my understanding also...

[sheffield hatter]

What is going off with this hiding pubs from the main pubs page this pub The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/55978/) has 3 photos all hidden,the pub still has the same name,so why are they hidden.


Looks like there may have been a glitch. I certainly didn't hide my photo of the Park, and judging by your posting above, I don't suppose you did either, Al.

I've clicked the button that should allow my picture to reappear on the main page... just checked, and it's back.



Another Sheffield pub which has changed names Graze Inn (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/66754/) still has its old pub name of Champs on the main pub page while it is operating under a different name.


I've now hidden my photo of Graze when it was Champs.


As far as I know, apart from Dave M, only the original submitter can make the decision to show or hide photos on the main page of the pub, so in the case of The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubpictures/55978) that would be Jim Newell, Alan Winfield and Will Larter who made the choice if it wasn't Dave.

Strange if all three of us spontaneously decided to not show our photos of the same pub for no apparent reason... especially as one of the three is now complaining about it! Confirms my first thought that there may be a gremlin in the works.

[Al 10000]

As far as I know, apart from Dave M, only the original submitter can make the decision to show or hide photos on the main page of the pub, so in the case of The Park (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubpictures/55978) that would be Jim Newell, Alan Winfield and Will Larter who made the choice if it wasn't Dave.

I have never hidden any photo's that i have taken and put on this site,ime not sure how you would do it,just the same i am not that sure how to put it back on the pubs page,i did press a button but dont know if anything happened.

[sheffield hatter]

.... did press a button but dont know if anything happened.

Yes, that's worked!

[Mobyduck]

List of pubs in the UK with a CAMRA discount (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pub-features/camra-discount/)

Stats
Real Ale by county (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/real-ale-counties.php)
Photos by county (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/photos-counties.php)
Reviews by county (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/reviews-counties.php)
Pub Facility contributions by user (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/user-facilities/)
Top 1000 most followed pub list (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/stats/twitter/popular/)

Tools
Check reviews mentioning real ale (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/tools/check-reviews.php?pagefacid=101)
Check reviews mentioning camra discount (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/tools/check-reviews.php?pagefacid=102)
Hi Dave,
Not sure if its my computer but the two tools links, Check reviews mentioning real ale and reviews mentioning camra discount, now just take me to the main site home page?

[ROBCamra]

Hi Dave,
Not sure if its my computer but the two tools links, Check reviews mentioning real ale and reviews mentioning camra discount, now just take me to the main site home page?

Works OK for me.

[Mobyduck]

Hi Dave,
Not sure if its my computer but the two tools links, Check reviews mentioning real ale and reviews mentioning camra discount, now just take me to the main site home page?


Works OK for me.

Ok false alarm, sussed it, I am at work and when I pressed the link I wasn't logged in to the main site, hence just the home page. :muppet:

[Dave M]

Ok false alarm, sussed it, I am at work and when I pressed the link I wasn't logged in to the main site, hence just the home page. :muppet:

Easy mistake to make, was just going to ask if you were definitely logged in. I confuse myself that way an awful lot! :D

[Mobyduck]

Easy mistake to make,
It was for me. :D